Cpr X non adherence to ATC instruction had conflict with small transport Y.

Attributes
ACN	163799
Time
Date	199011
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : teb
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : teb
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	other
Route In Use	approach : circling
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : straight in
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	163799
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 3000 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

After shooting the VOR/DME a circle to 19 cpr X was instructed to fly a 1500 downwind because of numerous aircraft in the pattern which we were aware of because while shooting the approach there was much radio confusion trying to keep airplanes straight. Just after turning base we were asked to widen to the right because we were #2 behind an small transport Y on a straight in approach. We had not been given a sequence prior to that or were we aware of the small transport Y. Seconds later we were instructed to turn right which we felt would turn us directly into the approach of the small transport Y which we had not yet seen. After spotting the small transport Y we started a climb and flew our base across final in front of the small transport Y and were then instructed to turn a right 270 degree and enter on final. We were still uncomfortable because we knew some of the pattern aircraft were given right downwinds. We continued and landed west/O further incident, although we never saw any of downwind aircraft. Three problems seemed evident. Confusion in the tower about where aircraft in the pattern were. Too many aircraft in the pattern. Straight in approach authority/authorized while everyone else was lined up for the VOR/DME approach. Knowing of past accidents and experiences of mixed performance aircraft in the teb area I was very uncomfortable because of the number of aircraft in the pattern.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CPR X NON ADHERENCE TO ATC INSTRUCTION HAD CONFLICT WITH SMT Y.

Narrative: AFTER SHOOTING THE VOR/DME A CIRCLE TO 19 CPR X WAS INSTRUCTED TO FLY A 1500 DOWNWIND BECAUSE OF NUMEROUS ACFT IN THE PATTERN WHICH WE WERE AWARE OF BECAUSE WHILE SHOOTING THE APCH THERE WAS MUCH RADIO CONFUSION TRYING TO KEEP AIRPLANES STRAIGHT. JUST AFTER TURNING BASE WE WERE ASKED TO WIDEN TO THE R BECAUSE WE WERE #2 BEHIND AN SMT Y ON A STRAIGHT IN APCH. WE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN A SEQUENCE PRIOR TO THAT OR WERE WE AWARE OF THE SMT Y. SECS LATER WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TURN R WHICH WE FELT WOULD TURN US DIRECTLY INTO THE APCH OF THE SMT Y WHICH WE HAD NOT YET SEEN. AFTER SPOTTING THE SMT Y WE STARTED A CLB AND FLEW OUR BASE ACROSS FINAL IN FRONT OF THE SMT Y AND WERE THEN INSTRUCTED TO TURN A R 270 DEG AND ENTER ON FINAL. WE WERE STILL UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE KNEW SOME OF THE PATTERN ACFT WERE GIVEN R DOWNWINDS. WE CONTINUED AND LANDED W/O FURTHER INCIDENT, ALTHOUGH WE NEVER SAW ANY OF DOWNWIND ACFT. THREE PROBS SEEMED EVIDENT. CONFUSION IN THE TWR ABOUT WHERE ACFT IN THE PATTERN WERE. TOO MANY ACFT IN THE PATTERN. STRAIGHT IN APCH AUTH WHILE EVERYONE ELSE WAS LINED UP FOR THE VOR/DME APCH. KNOWING OF PAST ACCIDENTS AND EXPERIENCES OF MIXED PERFORMANCE ACFT IN THE TEB AREA I WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF ACFT IN THE PATTERN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.