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Attributes | |
ACN | 163813 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : nqx |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : nqx tower : eyw tower : sdl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Flight Phase | other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 2 |
ASRS Report | 163813 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
While on a duty fam trip returning from key west, fl, I was an observer member of the flight deck on air carrier X an medium large transport. Departing eyw runway 9 we made a left turn to 360 degree military key west evidently called traffic to pilot at 12 O'clock 1000'. All 3 of us saw 2 spc Y pass underneath in the pattern at 1000' MSL as we were climbing through 1300' MSL. I assume they were VFR however, the crew was slightly upset and as a controller I was uncomfortable to be in a climb confign with traffic head on passing that close underneath. Had we not climbed as fast as we had, the potential for disaster would have been unacceptable. As a controller I question the practice of having departures turn into and climb through the nqx traffic pattern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD NMAC WITH MIL SPC Y. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: WHILE ON A DUTY FAM TRIP RETURNING FROM KEY WEST, FL, I WAS AN OBSERVER MEMBER OF THE FLT DECK ON ACR X AN MLG. DEPARTING EYW RWY 9 WE MADE A L TURN TO 360 DEG MIL KEY WEST EVIDENTLY CALLED TFC TO PLT AT 12 O'CLOCK 1000'. ALL 3 OF US SAW 2 SPC Y PASS UNDERNEATH IN THE PATTERN AT 1000' MSL AS WE WERE CLBING THROUGH 1300' MSL. I ASSUME THEY WERE VFR HOWEVER, THE CREW WAS SLIGHTLY UPSET AND AS A CTLR I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE TO BE IN A CLB CONFIGN WITH TFC HEAD ON PASSING THAT CLOSE UNDERNEATH. HAD WE NOT CLBED AS FAST AS WE HAD, THE POTENTIAL FOR DISASTER WOULD HAVE BEEN UNACCEPTABLE. AS A CTLR I QUESTION THE PRACTICE OF HAVING DEPS TURN INTO AND CLB THROUGH THE NQX TFC PATTERN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.