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Attributes | |
ACN | 166409 |
Time | |
Date | 199012 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 98 flight time total : 14200 |
ASRS Report | 166409 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departure clearance out of lax was loop 8 with daggett transition. Briefed departure off of runway 25R as it had been used previously on this routing. Loop 8 calls for a heading change to 235 degree after crossing smo 154 degree right on runway 25R. Lax ground cleared us to runway 24L for departure. Although loop 8 SID's were clipped to both capts and first officer's yokes, both failed to note altered procedure for runway 24L, ie, no heading change required. On climb out departure control asked for our heading. We responded 235 degree and rechked the published procedure. Noting that we should have been on a 250 degree heading , we volunteered to turn immediately. Departure control's response 'no problem stay on present heading.' after the incident, when talking on telephone to lax TRACON supervisor, he reported there was a traffic conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG TRACK HEADING DEVIATION ON SID FROM LAX. FLT CREW USED A SID FOR A RWY OTHER THAN THE TKOF RWY.
Narrative: DEP CLRNC OUT OF LAX WAS LOOP 8 WITH DAGGETT TRANSITION. BRIEFED DEP OFF OF RWY 25R AS IT HAD BEEN USED PREVIOUSLY ON THIS RTING. LOOP 8 CALLS FOR A HDG CHANGE TO 235 DEG AFTER XING SMO 154 DEG R ON RWY 25R. LAX GND CLRED US TO RWY 24L FOR DEP. ALTHOUGH LOOP 8 SID'S WERE CLIPPED TO BOTH CAPTS AND F/O'S YOKES, BOTH FAILED TO NOTE ALTERED PROC FOR RWY 24L, IE, NO HDG CHANGE REQUIRED. ON CLBOUT DEP CTL ASKED FOR OUR HDG. WE RESPONDED 235 DEG AND RECHKED THE PUBLISHED PROC. NOTING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A 250 DEG HDG , WE VOLUNTEERED TO TURN IMMEDIATELY. DEP CTL'S RESPONSE 'NO PROB STAY ON PRESENT HDG.' AFTER THE INCIDENT, WHEN TALKING ON TELEPHONE TO LAX TRACON SUPVR, HE RPTED THERE WAS A TFC CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.