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Attributes | |
ACN | 1680638 |
Time | |
Date | 201909 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.ARTCC |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Other holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B737-900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
I was working sectors X/Y combined. There was a line of weather spanning from ZZZ VOR northeast bound to ZZZ1 VOR. There were some holes to get some traffic thru; but we had to go into a single flow for ZZZ and ZZZ1. We were asked to route ZZZ2 overflights around on various routes to avoid the weather as well. We got a few ZZZ and ZZZ1's thru initially after being in and out of the hold. There ended up being too many ZZZ and ZZZ1's side by side and weather routing into a single flow got to become too cumbersome. Sectors Z/a had too many deviations; and said they couldn't take anymore. I setup to go into the hold again to slow everything down for them. They said they could take out 1 at a time; but I just needed to get aircraft into the hold to come up with a better plan. We could not hold for the ZZZ's because of weather. I established the ZZZ hold at ZZZ2 VOR with right hand turns and X mile legs. I held ZZZ's at odd altitudes; and ZZZ1's at even altitudes with X mile legs (published holding at zzzzz; with left turns). Since the majority of the airplanes had already held several times before; there was more queries and information they were asking to make their plans better with their fuel constraints. This caused a little extra frequency congestion. I began to pull out advantageous aircraft to put on headings northbound for sector a to work around the weather. I began to transition the aircraft descending to move everyone along sooner. Aircraft X was giving holding at zzzzz. He asked to do right turns instead of left because of the weather. I told him unable because of the restricted area; and that I could move his holding pattern farther to the south. I turned aircraft X left to a 240 heading to bring him farther south. Shortly thereafter; I then saw an opportunity to get this aircraft in so I tried to turn him to a 360 heading to go thru the hole in the weather aircraft were going through. He was unable; so I told him to keep flying the 240 heading. Then I continued descending aircraft. I descended aircraft X to fl 340. I believed that is what he read back. Then; I had aircraft Y; I descended to FL350; and I guess I didn't quite realize the holding pattern he was making. I had giving him holding southwest of ZZZ2 VOR on his inbound radial (he came from area 5) so his turns were a bit different than the others that came from area X. I issued a few more clearances and conflict alert went off. I didn't realize until later that the aircraft X ended up leveling off at FL350 and wasn't descending to FL340. Another aircraft was tying up the frequency. As soon as I could; I turned the aircraft Y right to a 270 heading and the aircraft X I turned left to a 090 heading. It was too late; and the aircraft came within a few miles of each other at the same altitude. This line of weather spanned across [sectors] Z/a most of the night. There was some holes to work some traffic through; but most of the night it appeared that traffic was still being run into the weather without a plan. There were a few times that we were told to route airplanes into the weather for their re-routes; and it made no sense. ZZZ3 was running back door [routing]; and supervisor came over and told us that tmu said we could run the ZZZ3 over ZZZZZ1 sie. This was around XA00- ish; and sectors X and Y were split. ZZZ1 has just gone into the hold; so sector X just got busy holding ZZZ1's. We told the supervisor that we had taking point-out's on the ZZZ3's and that we didn't have any; and that he should tell area X about the re-route to ZZZ3 for any of them that were farther to the south. Supervisor then came back after going to check with someone; and told us that we had the 2 that ZZZ3's they were talking about. We told him again; that we weren't talking to them; and even if we were; they are just about out of our airspace and established on the back door routing. Why would we turn them over ZZZZZ1 sie; try to get them down through the holding pattern; and on a routethat still went into the weather. We then called sector B and asked if they were taking ZZZ3 ZZZZZ1 sie; they said no because of weather. I don't understand why tmu said to route aircraft into weather. Earlier than that; we were in the hold for ZZZ4 (for the same line of weather that caused a problem all evening shift). Then we were told to route the ZZZ4's over ZZZZZ2; then over to the jimms arrival-into the weather. At this time; the ZZZZZ3 arrival over [fix] was clear on the backside of the weather. There just seemed to be no plan all night long; and there was a lot of extra coordination; volume and chaos that wasn't needed. I hope this evening's traffic flows are reviewed and we can gain some lessons learned out of this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Center Controller reported while in holding; an air carrier did not descend to assigned altitude resulting in an airborne conflict.
Narrative: I was working Sectors X/Y combined. There was a line of weather spanning from ZZZ VOR northeast bound to ZZZ1 VOR. There were some holes to get some traffic thru; but we had to go into a single flow for ZZZ and ZZZ1. We were asked to route ZZZ2 overflights around on various routes to avoid the weather as well. We got a few ZZZ and ZZZ1's thru initially after being in and out of the hold. There ended up being too many ZZZ and ZZZ1's side by side and weather routing into a single flow got to become too cumbersome. Sectors Z/A had too many deviations; and said they couldn't take anymore. I setup to go into the hold again to slow everything down for them. They said they could take out 1 at a time; but I just needed to get aircraft into the hold to come up with a better plan. We could not hold for the ZZZ's because of weather. I established the ZZZ hold at ZZZ2 VOR with right hand turns and X mile legs. I held ZZZ's at odd altitudes; and ZZZ1's at even altitudes with X mile legs (published holding at ZZZZZ; with left turns). Since the majority of the airplanes had already held several times before; there was more queries and information they were asking to make their plans better with their fuel constraints. This caused a little extra frequency congestion. I began to pull out advantageous aircraft to put on headings northbound for Sector A to work around the weather. I began to transition the aircraft descending to move everyone along sooner. Aircraft X was giving holding at ZZZZZ. He asked to do right turns instead of left because of the weather. I told him unable because of the restricted area; and that I could move his holding pattern farther to the south. I turned Aircraft X left to a 240 heading to bring him farther south. Shortly thereafter; I then saw an opportunity to get this aircraft in so I tried to turn him to a 360 heading to go thru the hole in the weather aircraft were going through. He was unable; so I told him to keep flying the 240 heading. Then I continued descending aircraft. I descended Aircraft X to FL 340. I believed that is what he read back. Then; I had Aircraft Y; I descended to FL350; and I guess I didn't quite realize the holding pattern he was making. I had giving him holding southwest of ZZZ2 VOR on his inbound radial (he came from area 5) so his turns were a bit different than the others that came from Area X. I issued a few more clearances and conflict alert went off. I didn't realize until later that the Aircraft X ended up leveling off at FL350 and wasn't descending to FL340. Another aircraft was tying up the frequency. As soon as I could; I turned the Aircraft Y right to a 270 heading and the Aircraft X I turned left to a 090 heading. It was too late; and the aircraft came within a few miles of each other at the same altitude. This line of weather spanned across [Sectors] Z/A most of the night. There was some holes to work some traffic through; but most of the night it appeared that traffic was still being run into the weather without a plan. There were a few times that we were told to route airplanes into the weather for their re-routes; and it made no sense. ZZZ3 was running back door [routing]; and Supervisor came over and told us that TMU said we could run the ZZZ3 over ZZZZZ1 SIE. This was around XA00- ish; and Sectors X and Y were split. ZZZ1 has just gone into the hold; so Sector X just got busy holding ZZZ1's. We told the Supervisor that we had taking point-out's on the ZZZ3's and that we didn't have any; and that he should tell Area X about the re-route to ZZZ3 for any of them that were farther to the south. Supervisor then came back after going to check with someone; and told us that we had the 2 that ZZZ3's they were talking about. We told him again; that we weren't talking to them; and even if we were; they are just about out of our airspace and established on the back door routing. Why would we turn them over ZZZZZ1 SIE; try to get them down through the holding pattern; and on a routethat still went into the weather. We then called Sector B and asked if they were taking ZZZ3 ZZZZZ1 SIE; they said no because of weather. I don't understand why TMU said to route aircraft into weather. Earlier than that; we were in the hold for ZZZ4 (for the same line of weather that caused a problem ALL EVENING SHIFT). Then we were told to route the ZZZ4's over ZZZZZ2; then over to the JIMMS arrival-into the weather. At this time; the ZZZZZ3 arrival over [fix] was clear on the backside of the weather. There just seemed to be no plan all night long; and there was a lot of extra coordination; volume and chaos that wasn't needed. I hope this evening's traffic flows are reviewed and we can gain some lessons learned out of this.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.