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Attributes | |
ACN | 169254 |
Time | |
Date | 199101 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oxc |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 1025 flight time type : 160 |
ASRS Report | 169254 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Conducting mutli engine training for CFI-mei, we were doing a single engine approach. Retarded throttle to simulate engine out, resulting in constant gear warning horn due to its low manifold pressure. We were so accustomed to the noise that neither of us realized the gear was still up. We believe there should be a different sound in multi training aircraft when only 1 throttle is retarded. Why can't FAA mandate this?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA MAKING A SIMULATED SINGLE ENGINE APCH LNDG LANDED GEAR UP.
Narrative: CONDUCTING MUTLI ENG TRNING FOR CFI-MEI, WE WERE DOING A SINGLE ENG APCH. RETARDED THROTTLE TO SIMULATE ENG OUT, RESULTING IN CONSTANT GEAR WARNING HORN DUE TO ITS LOW MANIFOLD PRESSURE. WE WERE SO ACCUSTOMED TO THE NOISE THAT NEITHER OF US REALIZED THE GEAR WAS STILL UP. WE BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT SOUND IN MULTI TRNING ACFT WHEN ONLY 1 THROTTLE IS RETARDED. WHY CAN'T FAA MANDATE THIS?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.