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Attributes | |
ACN | 169309 |
Time | |
Date | 199009 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : srp airport : p19 |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2900 msl bound upper : 2900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p19 tower : fxe |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 315 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 169309 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 20 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While conducting an FAA flight check for flight instrument-INS aircraft with a designated examiner, I was demonstrating the VOR-a approach to chandler-staller airport. Neither I nor the examiner were under the hood at the time of the incident; however, I was flying by reference to INS, solely. I had thought the examiner was looking for traffic, but immediately before and during the near miss was doing something with a chart or something inside the cockpit. I believe I was descending on the approach, but am not sure, when I saw the tail of an small aircraft Y disappear under the nose. I had no time to react because the aircraft was already under me by the time I realized what was happening. I looked out the right rear window and the small aircraft Y appeared to be maneuvering, perhaps making an evasive maneuver. Approximately 10 mins before the incident I requested VFR flight following while on the chandler-stellar VOR-a. ATC denied VFR service. On the approach I knew we were VFR and responsible for collision avoidance, but assumed that the examiner was keeping watch because I was demonstrating an INS approach. There had been no discussion as to who was responsible for what. Had I been with a student who was under the hood (simulating INS conditions), I would have clearly known I was responsible for collision avoidance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLO9SE PROX 2 GA SMA ACFT NEAR P19.
Narrative: WHILE CONDUCTING AN FAA FLT CHK FOR FLT INSTR-INS ACFT WITH A DESIGNATED EXAMINER, I WAS DEMONSTRATING THE VOR-A APCH TO CHANDLER-STALLER ARPT. NEITHER I NOR THE EXAMINER WERE UNDER THE HOOD AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT; HOWEVER, I WAS FLYING BY REF TO INS, SOLELY. I HAD THOUGHT THE EXAMINER WAS LOOKING FOR TFC, BUT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE AND DURING THE NEAR MISS WAS DOING SOMETHING WITH A CHART OR SOMETHING INSIDE THE COCKPIT. I BELIEVE I WAS DSNDING ON THE APCH, BUT AM NOT SURE, WHEN I SAW THE TAIL OF AN SMA Y DISAPPEAR UNDER THE NOSE. I HAD NO TIME TO REACT BECAUSE THE ACFT WAS ALREADY UNDER ME BY THE TIME I REALIZED WHAT WAS HAPPENING. I LOOKED OUT THE RIGHT REAR WINDOW AND THE SMA Y APPEARED TO BE MANEUVERING, PERHAPS MAKING AN EVASIVE MANEUVER. APPROX 10 MINS BEFORE THE INCIDENT I REQUESTED VFR FLT FOLLOWING WHILE ON THE CHANDLER-STELLAR VOR-A. ATC DENIED VFR SVC. ON THE APCH I KNEW WE WERE VFR AND RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLISION AVOIDANCE, BUT ASSUMED THAT THE EXAMINER WAS KEEPING WATCH BECAUSE I WAS DEMONSTRATING AN INS APCH. THERE HAD BEEN NO DISCUSSION AS TO WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. HAD I BEEN WITH A STUDENT WHO WAS UNDER THE HOOD (SIMULATING INS CONDITIONS), I WOULD HAVE CLEARLY KNOWN I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLISION AVOIDANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.