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Air carrier taxiing from ramp in fog misses taxiway, turns, confronts large transport which was able to make a 180 degree turn.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 169462 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199101 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : day |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2200 |
| ASRS Report | 169462 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Our flight taxied away from the gate and ground told us to taxi out on 'oscar' to our departure runway. The WX was 600, 600, 600 RVR in dense fog. The ramp area to the taxiway was, in my estimation, zero in fog. We taxied very slowly, and evidently missed, just barely 'oscar'. We turned around and headed back to the ramp when an large transport emerged out of the fog. No incident occurred. The large transport was able to make a 180 degree turn (we could not) and let us by. Ground control was made aware of the situation all along. We finally made it to oscar and the runway. While we felt bad about missing the taxiway and slowing down the operation, the terrible lack of proper signage, I feel contributed to this. We found no signs as we left the gate/ramp area. This situation must be addressed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR TAXIING FROM RAMP IN FOG MISSES TXWY, TURNS, CONFRONTS LGT WHICH WAS ABLE TO MAKE A 180 DEGREE TURN.
Narrative: OUR FLT TAXIED AWAY FROM THE GATE AND GND TOLD US TO TAXI OUT ON 'OSCAR' TO OUR DEP RWY. THE WX WAS 600, 600, 600 RVR IN DENSE FOG. THE RAMP AREA TO THE TXWY WAS, IN MY ESTIMATION, ZERO IN FOG. WE TAXIED VERY SLOWLY, AND EVIDENTLY MISSED, JUST BARELY 'OSCAR'. WE TURNED AROUND AND HEADED BACK TO THE RAMP WHEN AN LGT EMERGED OUT OF THE FOG. NO INCIDENT OCCURRED. THE LGT WAS ABLE TO MAKE A 180 DEG TURN (WE COULD NOT) AND LET US BY. GND CTL WAS MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION ALL ALONG. WE FINALLY MADE IT TO OSCAR AND THE RWY. WHILE WE FELT BAD ABOUT MISSING THE TXWY AND SLOWING DOWN THE OPERATION, THE TERRIBLE LACK OF PROPER SIGNAGE, I FEEL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS. WE FOUND NO SIGNS AS WE LEFT THE GATE/RAMP AREA. THIS SITUATION MUST BE ADDRESSED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.