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Attributes | |
ACN | 1697114 |
Time | |
Date | 201910 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LGB.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Type 2500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | No Specific Anomaly Occurred All Types |
Narrative:
The 'speed restrictions' note on the topmm 4 RNAV departure SID out of lgb listed in the jeppesen charts; page 10-3C; on the company efb page contains confusing formatting. This needs to be corrected to avoid unnecessary violations or extra coordination between crew members and/or ATC to clear up possible confusion/interpretation. The note states:'departing runway 26R; do not exceed 210 knots until established on the 302 degree course to topmm.maintain at or below 250 knots unless otherwise directed by ATC.'the confusion stems from the fact that despite the line space between the first and second sentences; it is unclear if the 250 knots restriction only applies to runway 26R departures; or departures from all runways. It would be clearer if the speed restriction included a phrase 'for all runways' or if it was stated first before the statement regarding runway 26R.' due to the formatting of this statement and lack of clarity; our briefing/coordination time increased due to the discussion and various interpretations that were possible. Please ask jeppesen to fix this issue. Note: there was no violation and we properly adhered to the 250-knot restriction until given 'normal speed' by ATC at approximately 11;000 ft. MSL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: First Officer reported confusing speed restriction notes on the Jeppesen LGB TOPMM4 departure chart.
Narrative: The 'speed restrictions' note on the TOPMM 4 RNAV Departure SID out of LGB listed in the Jeppesen charts; page 10-3C; on the Company EFB page contains confusing formatting. This needs to be corrected to avoid unnecessary violations or extra coordination between Crew Members and/or ATC to clear up possible confusion/interpretation. The note states:'Departing Runway 26R; do not exceed 210 knots until established on the 302 degree course to TOPMM.MAINTAIN at or below 250 knots unless otherwise directed by ATC.'The confusion stems from the fact that despite the line space between the first and second sentences; it is unclear if the 250 knots restriction only applies to Runway 26R departures; or departures from all runways. It would be clearer if the speed restriction included a phrase 'for all runways' or if it was stated first before the statement regarding Runway 26R.' Due to the formatting of this statement and lack of clarity; our briefing/coordination time increased due to the discussion and various interpretations that were possible. Please ask Jeppesen to fix this issue. NOTE: There was no violation and we properly adhered to the 250-knot restriction until given 'normal speed' by ATC at approximately 11;000 ft. MSL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.