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Attributes | |
ACN | 1703905 |
Time | |
Date | 201911 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TEB.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
While being vectored from the arrival to the ILS6 approach we were issued confusing instructions between approach controllers. The previous controller issued us direct vings and maintain 2;000'. Then the next controller issued us 'heading 090 to intercept.' this is where the confusion started as we were already direct to a fix on the localizer (vings) and with the winds aloft (300@50) a heading of 090 pushed us off of the previous track to intercept. The frequency was busy so by the time we queried the controller about it; we were about to go through the localizer. Then there was a break in the frequency so we asked the controlled to clarify and the controller issued '030 to intercept the localizer; 2;000 until established; cleared for the ILS 6 approach'. This new vector and clearance now made sense; but we had already flown through the localizer but and we continued the approach without incident. The causes were busy airspace; high workload on the controller; and breakdown in communication between controllers. This might have been avoided if we had informed the controller upon check-in that we were previously assigned direct vings rather than the controller assuming we were being vectored to the localizer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reported receiving conflicting heading clearances during hand-off between ATC controllers on vectors for the ILS.
Narrative: While being vectored from the arrival to the ILS6 approach we were issued confusing instructions between approach controllers. The previous controller issued us direct VINGS and maintain 2;000'. Then the next controller issued us 'Heading 090 to intercept.' This is where the confusion started as we were already direct to a fix on the localizer (VINGS) and with the winds aloft (300@50) a heading of 090 pushed us off of the previous track to intercept. The frequency was busy so by the time we queried the controller about it; we were about to go through the localizer. Then there was a break in the frequency so we asked the controlled to clarify and the controller issued '030 to intercept the localizer; 2;000 until established; cleared for the ILS 6 approach'. This new vector and clearance now made sense; but we had already flown through the localizer but and we continued the approach without incident. The causes were busy airspace; high workload on the controller; and breakdown in communication between controllers. This might have been avoided if we had informed the controller upon check-in that we were previously assigned direct VINGS rather than the controller assuming we were being vectored to the localizer.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.