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Attributes | |
ACN | 1714025 |
Time | |
Date | 201912 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MMFR.ARTCC |
State Reference | FO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Direct STAR ENEKO1B |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Private Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Commercial |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 130 Flight Crew Total 2631 Flight Crew Type 2380 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
While cleared for the ENEKO1B STAR at cabo; we set 4;000 ft in the altitude window as shown at avuru. We then heard another flight in front of us only descending to 10;000 feet which is shown at dawson. We then queried the controller to clarify the altitude we were cleared down to while flying this specific STAR; and they said 10;000 ft. This is very confusing to aircrew when 4;000 ft. Is shown at avuru on this specific STAR. We could easily have been violated had we not queried the controller. Either the STAR needs to depict this 10;000 ft. Restriction as the final altitude; or it needs to be written in the STAR that aircraft must stop their descent at 10;000 ft.; or controllers need to clearly state that you are cleared for the ENEKO1B; but only down to 10;000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: First Officer reported confusion regarding an altitude on the STAR and the altitude at the same location given to the preceding aircraft.
Narrative: While cleared for the ENEKO1B STAR at Cabo; we set 4;000 ft in the altitude window as shown at AVURU. We then heard another flight in front of us only descending to 10;000 feet which is shown at Dawson. We then queried the Controller to clarify the altitude we were cleared down to while flying this specific STAR; and they said 10;000 ft. This is very confusing to aircrew when 4;000 ft. is shown at AVURU on this specific STAR. We could easily have been violated had we not queried the Controller. Either the STAR needs to depict this 10;000 ft. restriction as the final altitude; or it needs to be written in the STAR that aircraft must stop their descent at 10;000 ft.; or Controllers need to clearly state that you are cleared for the ENEKO1B; but only down to 10;000 ft.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.