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Attributes | |
ACN | 171688 |
Time | |
Date | 199102 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 8100 flight time type : 415 |
ASRS Report | 171688 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
I feel that the taxiway markings at lax are very poor. Less than 50% of the txwys are marked with any identify signs at all to indicate the #; i.e., 32, 36, 45, etc. Lax is a very difficult airport to taxi on to begin with, and has a high vol of traffic on ground control frequency. No taxiway signs at all in some areas makes ground navigation extremely difficult. A typical ground clearance might be: taxi via the north route via juliet, 36, kilo, 45. But 36 and 45 and not marked in any manner, you just have to know where they area. I would recommend temporary daylight sings until permanent lighted signs for all txwys can be installed. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states no specific problem occurred, but things are just very confusing at lax. With so much traffic and poor markings, one can get lost.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT PLT CLAIMS NO TXWY MARKINGS AT LAX.
Narrative: I FEEL THAT THE TXWY MARKINGS AT LAX ARE VERY POOR. LESS THAN 50% OF THE TXWYS ARE MARKED WITH ANY IDENT SIGNS AT ALL TO INDICATE THE #; I.E., 32, 36, 45, ETC. LAX IS A VERY DIFFICULT ARPT TO TAXI ON TO BEGIN WITH, AND HAS A HIGH VOL OF TFC ON GND CTL FREQ. NO TXWY SIGNS AT ALL IN SOME AREAS MAKES GND NAV EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. A TYPICAL GND CLRNC MIGHT BE: TAXI VIA THE N RTE VIA JULIET, 36, KILO, 45. BUT 36 AND 45 AND NOT MARKED IN ANY MANNER, YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHERE THEY AREA. I WOULD RECOMMEND TEMPORARY DAYLIGHT SINGS UNTIL PERMANENT LIGHTED SIGNS FOR ALL TXWYS CAN BE INSTALLED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES NO SPECIFIC PROB OCCURRED, BUT THINGS ARE JUST VERY CONFUSING AT LAX. WITH SO MUCH TFC AND POOR MARKINGS, ONE CAN GET LOST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.