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Attributes | |
ACN | 336553 |
Time | |
Date | 199605 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gsp |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : arb |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 22500 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 336553 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Numerous runway 3 NOTAMS due to runway 3 threshold displaced 2000 ft. 'Gsp NOTAM indicates runway 3/21 southwest 2000 ft closed.' there are no displaced threshold markings on the closed surface -- it is nearly impossible to determine where runway 3 begins. Was forced to question ground control on taxi back for takeoff where the runway end was located. An arriving flight made the same comment. This is a very hazardous situation. The airport operator should paint standard ICAO runway markings on this surface without delay. Suggest we not use runway 3 for landing. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the ICAO runway markings have been put in place for the displaced threshold as a result of his safety report to his company and employee organization. He stated that he is on a local committee in his residential community for the airport requirements and improvement for safety. Therefore, he is even more aware of what the airport operator obligations are when closing portions of a runway and in establishing a displaced threshold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG HAD DIFFICULTY IN DETERMINING WHERE THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD WAS LOCATED DUE TO A LACK OF RWY MARKINGS FOR A CLOSED SECTION OF THE RWY.
Narrative: NUMEROUS RWY 3 NOTAMS DUE TO RWY 3 THRESHOLD DISPLACED 2000 FT. 'GSP NOTAM INDICATES RWY 3/21 SW 2000 FT CLOSED.' THERE ARE NO DISPLACED THRESHOLD MARKINGS ON THE CLOSED SURFACE -- IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE WHERE RWY 3 BEGINS. WAS FORCED TO QUESTION GND CTL ON TAXI BACK FOR TKOF WHERE THE RWY END WAS LOCATED. AN ARRIVING FLT MADE THE SAME COMMENT. THIS IS A VERY HAZARDOUS SIT. THE ARPT OPERATOR SHOULD PAINT STANDARD ICAO RWY MARKINGS ON THIS SURFACE WITHOUT DELAY. SUGGEST WE NOT USE RWY 3 FOR LNDG. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE ICAO RWY MARKINGS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD AS A RESULT OF HIS SAFETY RPT TO HIS COMPANY AND EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION. HE STATED THAT HE IS ON A LCL COMMITTEE IN HIS RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FOR THE ARPT REQUIREMENTS AND IMPROVEMENT FOR SAFETY. THEREFORE, HE IS EVEN MORE AWARE OF WHAT THE ARPT OPERATOR OBLIGATIONS ARE WHEN CLOSING PORTIONS OF A RWY AND IN ESTABLISHING A DISPLACED THRESHOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.