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Attributes | |
ACN | 172541 |
Time | |
Date | 199103 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
ASRS Report | 172541 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Vectored onto final approach in VFR conditions. ATC consistently uses high vector angles to intercept final approach course--in this case, runway 12 ILS. We were told to fly heading of 060 degrees to intercept localizer course of 120 degrees 5 mi from runway threshold. We were told to maintain 3000' until airport in sight. A descent was initiated to accommodate G/south intercept, even though we were not quite on localizer. Due to high intercept angle, localizer was flown through and bracketing was necessary for alignment. This is a constant problem with this facility, even in IFR conditions and should be stopped.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR REPORTER COMPLAINS ABOUT BEING KEPT HIGH WHEN BEING VECTORED FOR APCH INTO IAD.
Narrative: VECTORED ONTO FINAL APCH IN VFR CONDITIONS. ATC CONSISTENTLY USES HIGH VECTOR ANGLES TO INTERCEPT FINAL APCH COURSE--IN THIS CASE, RWY 12 ILS. WE WERE TOLD TO FLY HDG OF 060 DEGS TO INTERCEPT LOC COURSE OF 120 DEGS 5 MI FROM RWY THRESHOLD. WE WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN 3000' UNTIL ARPT IN SIGHT. A DSNT WAS INITIATED TO ACCOMMODATE G/S INTERCEPT, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE NOT QUITE ON LOC. DUE TO HIGH INTERCEPT ANGLE, LOC WAS FLOWN THROUGH AND BRACKETING WAS NECESSARY FOR ALIGNMENT. THIS IS A CONSTANT PROB WITH THIS FAC, EVEN IN IFR CONDITIONS AND SHOULD BE STOPPED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.