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Attributes | |
ACN | 300179 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12700 msl bound upper : 12700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 300179 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
After landing the pilot of a air carrier B-747 filed a formal complaint that I flew too close to his aircraft. I was at 12700 ft doing air survey work, in contact with ZBW. Center pointed the aircraft out to me. I saw it, maintained visual contact with it from a point about 9 mi away until it passed 1 or more mi in front of me. From ATC information and from my own judgement there was no collision hazard. The B-747 pilots complaint stems from a TCASII alert. I do not think he ever had a visual sighting of my aircraft. I can sympathize with the pilot of the B-747. If a passenger saw my aircraft and felt I was too close it would be wise for the 747 pilot to have a complaint on record. The problem I have is, if I would have elected not to maintain radio contact with a facility as a courtesy, none of this would have happened because the controller would probably have vectored the 747 off course. Does this mean that by not maintaining radio and radar contact I can enhance safety. I think not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR COMPLAINS ABOUT PROX OF RPTR.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG THE PLT OF A ACR B-747 FILED A FORMAL COMPLAINT THAT I FLEW TOO CLOSE TO HIS ACFT. I WAS AT 12700 FT DOING AIR SURVEY WORK, IN CONTACT WITH ZBW. CTR POINTED THE ACFT OUT TO ME. I SAW IT, MAINTAINED VISUAL CONTACT WITH IT FROM A POINT ABOUT 9 MI AWAY UNTIL IT PASSED 1 OR MORE MI IN FRONT OF ME. FROM ATC INFO AND FROM MY OWN JUDGEMENT THERE WAS NO COLLISION HAZARD. THE B-747 PLTS COMPLAINT STEMS FROM A TCASII ALERT. I DO NOT THINK HE EVER HAD A VISUAL SIGHTING OF MY ACFT. I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH THE PLT OF THE B-747. IF A PAX SAW MY ACFT AND FELT I WAS TOO CLOSE IT WOULD BE WISE FOR THE 747 PLT TO HAVE A COMPLAINT ON RECORD. THE PROB I HAVE IS, IF I WOULD HAVE ELECTED NOT TO MAINTAIN RADIO CONTACT WITH A FACILITY AS A COURTESY, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE THE CTLR WOULD PROBABLY HAVE VECTORED THE 747 OFF COURSE. DOES THIS MEAN THAT BY NOT MAINTAINING RADIO AND RADAR CONTACT I CAN ENHANCE SAFETY. I THINK NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.