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Attributes | |
ACN | 173213 |
Time | |
Date | 199103 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hnl |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 173213 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 760 |
ASRS Report | 173409 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On takeoff out of hnl, aircraft settled slightly after rotation (complicated by gusty winds), possibility causing tailskid to come in contact with the runway. Captain and first officer did not suspect any tailskid strike, as rotation was normal except for slight settle. Aft flight attendant reported a rubbing noise in rear of aircraft to the so. After landing in jonston island captain called hnl chief pilots officer (per their request) and found out air carrier Y had reported to hnl control tower that our aircraft had scraped tailskid on takeoff out of hnl. Tailskid and aft tail section were inspected after landing on jon and no damage to tailskid or aft tail section were noted. Captain performed takeoff out of hnl. Aircraft weight was 170300#. Flaps 5 were used for takeoff. Full reduced power was authority/authorized and used for runway 8L. Captain had V1VR bug set for flaps 15 setting. All other bugs were set for flaps 5 setting. Captain's V1 bug was set at 139 KTS and should have been set at 147 KTS. At 139 KTS, captain released right hand from throttle and placed hand on control wheel. Captain did not received a 'V1 rotate' call from copilot. Captain started a normal rotation at approximately 142 KTS (5 KTS prior to normal V1). After aircraft rotation, some gusty wind was experienced, causing aircraft to settle slightly. The captain and first officer felt nothing except the slight settle after rotation. So said he thought he felt the tailskid scrape, but did not say anything due to the fact the tailskid worked normally on gear retraction. I feel the cause of this tailskid scrape was primarily due to the heavy wind gust on rotation. Possible contributory was the 5 KT early rotation which was preventable. Recommendations: 1) all crew members must verify checklist items when checklist is performed and read. 2) whenever any crew member feels something is out of the ordinary, always speak out loud your feelings to the remaining crew members. 3) due to the clutter on pedestal, takeoff data cards are normally returned to so desk after taxi checklist. Need at minimum V1VR and V2 speeds written on a piece of paper and left on pedestal for reference during takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT TAILSKID SCRAPE ON TKOF FROM HNL.
Narrative: ON TKOF OUT OF HNL, ACFT SETTLED SLIGHTLY AFTER ROTATION (COMPLICATED BY GUSTY WINDS), POSSIBILITY CAUSING TAILSKID TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THE RWY. CAPT AND FO DID NOT SUSPECT ANY TAILSKID STRIKE, AS ROTATION WAS NORMAL EXCEPT FOR SLIGHT SETTLE. AFT FLT ATTENDANT RPTED A RUBBING NOISE IN REAR OF ACFT TO THE SO. AFTER LNDG IN JONSTON ISLAND CAPT CALLED HNL CHIEF PLTS OFFICER (PER THEIR REQUEST) AND FOUND OUT ACR Y HAD RPTED TO HNL CTL TWR THAT OUR ACFT HAD SCRAPED TAILSKID ON TKOF OUT OF HNL. TAILSKID AND AFT TAIL SECTION WERE INSPECTED AFTER LNDG ON JON AND NO DAMAGE TO TAILSKID OR AFT TAIL SECTION WERE NOTED. CAPT PERFORMED TKOF OUT OF HNL. ACFT WT WAS 170300#. FLAPS 5 WERE USED FOR TKOF. FULL REDUCED PWR WAS AUTH AND USED FOR RWY 8L. CAPT HAD V1VR BUG SET FOR FLAPS 15 SETTING. ALL OTHER BUGS WERE SET FOR FLAPS 5 SETTING. CAPT'S V1 BUG WAS SET AT 139 KTS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN SET AT 147 KTS. AT 139 KTS, CAPT RELEASED RIGHT HAND FROM THROTTLE AND PLACED HAND ON CTL WHEEL. CAPT DID NOT RECEIVED A 'V1 ROTATE' CALL FROM COPLT. CAPT STARTED A NORMAL ROTATION AT APPROX 142 KTS (5 KTS PRIOR TO NORMAL V1). AFTER ACFT ROTATION, SOME GUSTY WIND WAS EXPERIENCED, CAUSING ACFT TO SETTLE SLIGHTLY. THE CAPT AND FO FELT NOTHING EXCEPT THE SLIGHT SETTLE AFTER ROTATION. SO SAID HE THOUGHT HE FELT THE TAILSKID SCRAPE, BUT DID NOT SAY ANYTHING DUE TO THE FACT THE TAILSKID WORKED NORMALLY ON GEAR RETRACTION. I FEEL THE CAUSE OF THIS TAILSKID SCRAPE WAS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE HEAVY WIND GUST ON ROTATION. POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTORY WAS THE 5 KT EARLY ROTATION WHICH WAS PREVENTABLE. RECOMMENDATIONS: 1) ALL CREW MEMBERS MUST VERIFY CHKLIST ITEMS WHEN CHKLIST IS PERFORMED AND READ. 2) WHENEVER ANY CREW MEMBER FEELS SOMETHING IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY, ALWAYS SPEAK OUT LOUD YOUR FEELINGS TO THE REMAINING CREW MEMBERS. 3) DUE TO THE CLUTTER ON PEDESTAL, TKOF DATA CARDS ARE NORMALLY RETURNED TO SO DESK AFTER TAXI CHKLIST. NEED AT MINIMUM V1VR AND V2 SPDS WRITTEN ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND LEFT ON PEDESTAL FOR REF DURING TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.