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Attributes | |
ACN | 173751 |
Time | |
Date | 199103 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cae |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 29500 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx tower : luk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 6 |
ASRS Report | 173751 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was nebnd at FL290. Air carrier Y was climbing southbound to FL280. X was advised of the traffic. As the targets got close (approximately 2 mi) air carrier X advised me that he had a TCAS ii alert and was climbing. X climbed approximately 500'. As things worked out there was no harm. It was pure luck that there was not an aircraft above air carrier X. The aircraft were separated, and a safe situation was turned into a possible dangerous one. In a brief discussion with the pilots immediately after the situation the air carrier Y pilot advised that he also had a TCAS ii alert. The air carrier X pilot expressed his unhappiness with the system as did I. The use of TCAS ii in positive control area (positive control airspace) is unnecessary and potentially dangerous. If there had been traffic at FL310 above air carrier X I feel that the TCAS ii alert would have still told him to climb and an operational error would have occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LEFT ASSIGNED ALT DUE TO TCAS II ALERT.
Narrative: ACR X WAS NEBND AT FL290. ACR Y WAS CLBING SBND TO FL280. X WAS ADVISED OF THE TFC. AS THE TARGETS GOT CLOSE (APPROX 2 MI) ACR X ADVISED ME THAT HE HAD A TCAS II ALERT AND WAS CLBING. X CLBED APPROX 500'. AS THINGS WORKED OUT THERE WAS NO HARM. IT WAS PURE LUCK THAT THERE WAS NOT AN ACFT ABOVE ACR X. THE ACFT WERE SEPARATED, AND A SAFE SITUATION WAS TURNED INTO A POSSIBLE DANGEROUS ONE. IN A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH THE PLTS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SITUATION THE ACR Y PLT ADVISED THAT HE ALSO HAD A TCAS II ALERT. THE ACR X PLT EXPRESSED HIS UNHAPPINESS WITH THE SYS AS DID I. THE USE OF TCAS II IN PCA (POSITIVE CTL AIRSPACE) IS UNNECESSARY AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. IF THERE HAD BEEN TFC AT FL310 ABOVE ACR X I FEEL THAT THE TCAS II ALERT WOULD HAVE STILL TOLD HIM TO CLB AND AN OPERATIONAL ERROR WOULD HAVE OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.