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Attributes | |
ACN | 1751616 |
Time | |
Date | 202007 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ASE.Airport |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Climb Takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
As we were cleared to line up and wait; we heard another aircraft instructed to continue for landing 10 miles out. We stayed in position on the runway for what seems longer than usual; possibly for separation from the aircraft that just departed. After takeoff on a heading of 343 at about 8;300 ft. We got a traffic alert immediately followed by a RA with a command to 'descend; descend'. We had reached approximately 8;700 ft. I cautiously began to follow the TCAS command bars on the pfd while slowing the aircraft and maintaining visual contact with the mountains. The red command bars disappeared and ATC issued a low altitude warning. At that point I saw an aircraft descending to the front left of our aircraft that appeared to be within 500 ft. Of us horizontally. The TCAS issued another RA with another descend; descend warning. With what I believe to be the conflict aircraft insight; I chose to climb as we were getting close to the mountain in front of us and that seemed to be the safest alternative with a rapidly evolving situation. Once we were clear of the conflict and in the climb with denver center; we were given a number to call by the controller stating a possible pilot deviation. Once we landed and completed our post flight duties I called the facility to discuss what happened.aspen is a very busy airport. While trying to get aircraft in and out on opposing runways; it seems that the tolerances between aircraft departing and arriving have gotten tighter. We sat on the runway for a while before being cleared for takeoff. At that point the conflicting aircraft was on a 10 mile final or so before we were cleared for takeoff. I don't know what the separation standard is supposed to be between arriving and departing aircraft; but I believe in this case the separation between us was too close.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot departing a mountain airport reported a traffic conflict with opposing traffic and climbed even though TCAS told them to descend due to the nearby mountainous terrain.
Narrative: As we were cleared to line up and wait; we heard another aircraft instructed to continue for landing 10 miles out. We stayed in position on the runway for what seems longer than usual; possibly for separation from the aircraft that just departed. After takeoff on a heading of 343 at about 8;300 ft. we got a traffic alert immediately followed by a RA with a command to 'descend; descend'. We had reached approximately 8;700 ft. I cautiously began to follow the TCAS command bars on the PFD while slowing the aircraft and maintaining visual contact with the mountains. The red command bars disappeared and ATC issued a low altitude warning. At that point I saw an aircraft descending to the front left of our aircraft that appeared to be within 500 ft. of us horizontally. The TCAS issued another RA with another descend; descend warning. With what I believe to be the conflict aircraft insight; I chose to climb as we were getting close to the mountain in front of us and that seemed to be the safest alternative with a rapidly evolving situation. Once we were clear of the conflict and in the climb with Denver Center; we were given a number to call by the controller stating a possible pilot deviation. Once we landed and completed our post flight duties I called the facility to discuss what happened.Aspen is a very busy airport. While trying to get aircraft in and out on opposing runways; it seems that the tolerances between aircraft departing and arriving have gotten tighter. We sat on the runway for a while before being cleared for takeoff. At that point the conflicting aircraft was on a 10 mile final or so before we were cleared for takeoff. I don't know what the separation standard is supposed to be between arriving and departing aircraft; but I believe in this case the separation between us was too close.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.