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Attributes | |
ACN | 177008 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mci |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mci |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 177008 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On approach to mci, we had this WX: measured 45 broken 80 overcast 8 trw/rw-050/8. Trw all quads moving northeast. 20 mi out our radar showed heavy storms (red scope) in and around the area called mci. At the time of the approach, communications were scratchy to non-existent. Airport information was contrary to what ATIS was saying. Our concern was the wind. The reporter from ATIS and approach were 180 degrees off, due to the trw's in the area. We were cleared the ILS runway 1 at mci and 17 mi out on the localizer, 4000'. Knowing we would not fly into any area en route with a radar scope that was filled with red blobs, I can't say I would do it with an approach either. ATC was reporting level 3 rainshowers. With the above, we broke off the approach and proceeded east. We made a late call to ATC due to a crowded frequency. We did a box pattern to a final approach with moderate turbulence and full stop landing. Ground told us approach was not happy with our late call, and I said we did the best we could. En route to approach was very short with a straight shot to the airport. Our radar tends to be too sensitive at close ranges, but all in all I think it was a good all to take a second look. Our only problem was communication. The static and perceived crowded frequency prevented us from making a timely call to ATC when operations got busy. I guess next time I will barge in to make my call and talk about on the ground when it's all done.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG BROKE OFF AN APCH TO RWY 1 AT MCI WITHOUT ADVISING APCH CTLR.
Narrative: ON APCH TO MCI, WE HAD THIS WX: MEASURED 45 BROKEN 80 OVCST 8 TRW/RW-050/8. TRW ALL QUADS MOVING NE. 20 MI OUT OUR RADAR SHOWED HEAVY STORMS (RED SCOPE) IN AND AROUND THE AREA CALLED MCI. AT THE TIME OF THE APCH, COMS WERE SCRATCHY TO NON-EXISTENT. ARPT INFO WAS CONTRARY TO WHAT ATIS WAS SAYING. OUR CONCERN WAS THE WIND. THE RPTR FROM ATIS AND APCH WERE 180 DEGS OFF, DUE TO THE TRW'S IN THE AREA. WE WERE CLRED THE ILS RWY 1 AT MCI AND 17 MI OUT ON THE LOC, 4000'. KNOWING WE WOULD NOT FLY INTO ANY AREA ENRTE WITH A RADAR SCOPE THAT WAS FILLED WITH RED BLOBS, I CAN'T SAY I WOULD DO IT WITH AN APCH EITHER. ATC WAS RPTING LEVEL 3 RAINSHOWERS. WITH THE ABOVE, WE BROKE OFF THE APCH AND PROCEEDED E. WE MADE A LATE CALL TO ATC DUE TO A CROWDED FREQ. WE DID A BOX PATTERN TO A FINAL APCH WITH MODERATE TURB AND FULL STOP LNDG. GND TOLD US APCH WAS NOT HAPPY WITH OUR LATE CALL, AND I SAID WE DID THE BEST WE COULD. ENRTE TO APCH WAS VERY SHORT WITH A STRAIGHT SHOT TO THE ARPT. OUR RADAR TENDS TO BE TOO SENSITIVE AT CLOSE RANGES, BUT ALL IN ALL I THINK IT WAS A GOOD ALL TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK. OUR ONLY PROB WAS COM. THE STATIC AND PERCEIVED CROWDED FREQ PREVENTED US FROM MAKING A TIMELY CALL TO ATC WHEN OPS GOT BUSY. I GUESS NEXT TIME I WILL BARGE IN TO MAKE MY CALL AND TALK ABOUT ON THE GND WHEN IT'S ALL DONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.