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Attributes | |
ACN | 177857 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pit artcc : zhu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 330 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1900 |
ASRS Report | 177857 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We departed runway 28R at pit as air carrier X en route to jst. Heading assigned by tower was 34D with climb to 4000' as per the SID. After takeoff tower turned us to a 360 degree heading and turned us over to departure. Departure control cleared us to 13000' on the 360 degree heading. While climbing through approximately 5400-5600' we saw air carrier Y pass about 400-600' above and 3/4-1 mi in front of us. Departure control, at the same time we saw the traffic, cleared us back down to 5000'. We then responded that we had the traffic in sight. Departure instructed us to maintain visibility sep with the traffic and climb to 13000'. Upon landing I called the TRACON supervisor. He said the reason for the conflict was due to controller error. Before the controller climbed us he looked at the radar and saw no traffic inbound from cutta intersection, the normal path taken by traffic inbound from the northwest. Air carrier Y had come from over hlg VOR, the southwest.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM ACR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED RWY 28R AT PIT AS ACR X ENRTE TO JST. HDG ASSIGNED BY TWR WAS 34D WITH CLB TO 4000' AS PER THE SID. AFTER TKOF TWR TURNED US TO A 360 DEG HDG AND TURNED US OVER TO DEP. DEP CTL CLRED US TO 13000' ON THE 360 DEG HDG. WHILE CLBING THROUGH APPROX 5400-5600' WE SAW ACR Y PASS ABOUT 400-600' ABOVE AND 3/4-1 MI IN FRONT OF US. DEP CTL, AT THE SAME TIME WE SAW THE TFC, CLRED US BACK DOWN TO 5000'. WE THEN RESPONDED THAT WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. DEP INSTRUCTED US TO MAINTAIN VIS SEP WITH THE TFC AND CLB TO 13000'. UPON LNDG I CALLED THE TRACON SUPVR. HE SAID THE REASON FOR THE CONFLICT WAS DUE TO CTLR ERROR. BEFORE THE CTLR CLBED US HE LOOKED AT THE RADAR AND SAW NO TFC INBND FROM CUTTA INTXN, THE NORMAL PATH TAKEN BY TFC INBND FROM THE NW. ACR Y HAD COME FROM OVER HLG VOR, THE SW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.