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Attributes | |
ACN | 180030 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : new |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy tower : lax |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12400 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 180030 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While on an IFR flight between gulf port, mi, and new orleans, la, I was cleared to descend to 3000' and told to expect a visibility approach. Approximately one min later I reported the airport at new orleans-lakefront in sight. At that time I heard the controller clear me for a visibility approach. Approximately 5 mins later while descending the controller asked me to state my clearance altitude, I told him that I had been cleared for a visibility approach. He told me 'that was a negative, I had not been cleared for the visibility approach.' I believe that I heard my aircraft number cleared for the visibility approach. I am not sure what caused the misunderstanding, but this is not the first time I have had a similar occurrence with new orleans approach control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRNC DISPUTED BY APCH CTLR AND SMT PLT.
Narrative: WHILE ON AN IFR FLT BTWN GULF PORT, MI, AND NEW ORLEANS, LA, I WAS CLRED TO DSND TO 3000' AND TOLD TO EXPECT A VIS APCH. APPROX ONE MIN LATER I RPTED THE ARPT AT NEW ORLEANS-LAKEFRONT IN SIGHT. AT THAT TIME I HEARD THE CTLR CLR ME FOR A VIS APCH. APPROX 5 MINS LATER WHILE DSNDING THE CTLR ASKED ME TO STATE MY CLRNC ALT, I TOLD HIM THAT I HAD BEEN CLRED FOR A VIS APCH. HE TOLD ME 'THAT WAS A NEGATIVE, I HAD NOT BEEN CLRED FOR THE VIS APCH.' I BELIEVE THAT I HEARD MY ACFT NUMBER CLRED FOR THE VIS APCH. I AM NOT SURE WHAT CAUSED THE MISUNDERSTANDING, BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HAD A SIMILAR OCCURRENCE WITH NEW ORLEANS APCH CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.