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Attributes | |
ACN | 181354 |
Time | |
Date | 199106 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl artcc : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 181354 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 181361 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While descending to 11000', we received a TA. I looked at display to see where traffic was, then visually acquired traffic outside. As I was watching the traffic maybe 5-10 seconds, we received an RA climb command. Captain immediately began a climb. As we received the clear of conflict command, the altitude alert went off. We were 11400-11500'. Atl verified that we were leveling at 11000'. We acknowledged that we were. The problem was, we were descending while the other aircraft was climbing and the TCAS didn't know what altitudes the aircraft were to level off at. It began the warning commands and we were distracted by them and ended up deviating from altitude when there was really no conflict. We were in a descent to 11000'; other aircraft was in a climb to 10000'. Supplemental information from acn 181361: the frequent, too loud and distracting TCAS 'traffic, traffic' warnings I have heard over the past several months have made me somewhat less than a true fan of the system. The distraction factor may have played a roll in this incident, but if you throw out all the shoulda's and coulda's, the bottom line is that the TCAS saved my bacon on this one. I'll reassess my thinking on TCAS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW RECEIVES TCAS ALERT WHILE DESCENDING. RESPONDS.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING TO 11000', WE RECEIVED A TA. I LOOKED AT DISPLAY TO SEE WHERE TFC WAS, THEN VISUALLY ACQUIRED TFC OUTSIDE. AS I WAS WATCHING THE TFC MAYBE 5-10 SECS, WE RECEIVED AN RA CLB COMMAND. CAPT IMMEDIATELY BEGAN A CLB. AS WE RECEIVED THE CLR OF CONFLICT COMMAND, THE ALT ALERT WENT OFF. WE WERE 11400-11500'. ATL VERIFIED THAT WE WERE LEVELING AT 11000'. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE WERE. THE PROB WAS, WE WERE DSNDING WHILE THE OTHER ACFT WAS CLBING AND THE TCAS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ALTS THE ACFT WERE TO LEVEL OFF AT. IT BEGAN THE WARNING COMMANDS AND WE WERE DISTRACTED BY THEM AND ENDED UP DEVIATING FROM ALT WHEN THERE WAS REALLY NO CONFLICT. WE WERE IN A DSNT TO 11000'; OTHER ACFT WAS IN A CLB TO 10000'. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 181361: THE FREQUENT, TOO LOUD AND DISTRACTING TCAS 'TFC, TFC' WARNINGS I HAVE HEARD OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE MADE ME SOMEWHAT LESS THAN A TRUE FAN OF THE SYS. THE DISTR FACTOR MAY HAVE PLAYED A ROLL IN THIS INCIDENT, BUT IF YOU THROW OUT ALL THE SHOULDA'S AND COULDA'S, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE TCAS SAVED MY BACON ON THIS ONE. I'LL REASSESS MY THINKING ON TCAS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.