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Attributes | |
ACN | 183488 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 183488 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was asked to keep speed up and given a vector toward but not directly to the VOR. Was told to cross 30 DME out at 10000 ft at 250 KTS. Programmed FMC for crossing restriction for descent guidance. Was still not cleared to fix so stayed in heading mode. At 35 mi out was asked if able to make restriction. I asked if I was cleared to the VOR. Controller gave us a vector away from fix and told us we were too high (16000 ft) for approach to accept. Our descent page data was based on an arcing course to fix. Controller forgot to clear us direct and we sat there and allowed the machine to bring us in too high. Back to basics is the answer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC MISPROGRAMMED THEIR FMC FOR DSCNT AND XING RESTRICTION.
Narrative: WAS ASKED TO KEEP SPEED UP AND GIVEN A VECTOR TOWARD BUT NOT DIRECTLY TO THE VOR. WAS TOLD TO CROSS 30 DME OUT AT 10000 FT AT 250 KTS. PROGRAMMED FMC FOR XING RESTRICTION FOR DSCNT GUIDANCE. WAS STILL NOT CLRED TO FIX SO STAYED IN HDG MODE. AT 35 MI OUT WAS ASKED IF ABLE TO MAKE RESTRICTION. I ASKED IF I WAS CLRED TO THE VOR. CTLR GAVE US A VECTOR AWAY FROM FIX AND TOLD US WE WERE TOO HIGH (16000 FT) FOR APCH TO ACCEPT. OUR DSCNT PAGE DATA WAS BASED ON AN ARCING COURSE TO FIX. CTLR FORGOT TO CLR US DIRECT AND WE SAT THERE AND ALLOWED THE MACHINE TO BRING US IN TOO HIGH. BACK TO BASICS IS THE ANSWER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.