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Attributes | |
ACN | 184463 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lex |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lex |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 500 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 184463 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 450 vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
We had been cleared to land runway 4. Another aircraft had been cleared touch and go behind us. Controller asked other aircraft if he had us in sight. Other aircraft said he did. Controller told other aircraft to keep us in sight, to follow us and cleared him touch and go. On short final we had a near miss with this aircraft as he cuts us off coming in above us. We make a sharp left turn to avoid him. He continues and completes his touch and go we come around for full stop landing. Controller had absolutely no idea what was going on. He said he saw 'no problem'. This same controller had earlier asked us to make our turn to base and then to make a right 360 degree turn to get out a departure before our touch and go. We complied, but this move brought us extremely close to final. After doing this, the controller saw fit to reprimand us for doing exactly what he had told us to do.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA CLRED TOUCH AND GO TO FOLLOW RPTR'S SMA, SECOND ONE CUT FIRST SMA OUT ON SHORT FINAL. LCL CTLR TOOK NO ACTION TO SEPARATE.
Narrative: WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO LAND RWY 4. ANOTHER ACFT HAD BEEN CLRED TOUCH AND GO BEHIND US. CTLR ASKED OTHER ACFT IF HE HAD US IN SIGHT. OTHER ACFT SAID HE DID. CTLR TOLD OTHER ACFT TO KEEP US IN SIGHT, TO FOLLOW US AND CLRED HIM TOUCH AND GO. ON SHORT FINAL WE HAD A NEAR MISS WITH THIS ACFT AS HE CUTS US OFF COMING IN ABOVE US. WE MAKE A SHARP L TURN TO AVOID HIM. HE CONTINUES AND COMPLETES HIS TOUCH AND GO WE COME AROUND FOR FULL STOP LNDG. CTLR HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE SAID HE SAW 'NO PROBLEM'. THIS SAME CTLR HAD EARLIER ASKED US TO MAKE OUR TURN TO BASE AND THEN TO MAKE A R 360 DEG TURN TO GET OUT A DEP BEFORE OUR TOUCH AND GO. WE COMPLIED, BUT THIS MOVE BROUGHT US EXTREMELY CLOSE TO FINAL. AFTER DOING THIS, THE CTLR SAW FIT TO REPRIMAND US FOR DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE HAD TOLD US TO DO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.