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Attributes | |
ACN | 186115 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lvk airport : hwd |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 186115 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 75 vertical : 75 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a return flight from byron (4q5) to hayward (hwd) at 4500 ft about 5 mi south of altam (V244) an first officer ftr made a descending right turn passing through our altitude and passing from our 5 O'clock to our 11 O'clock position coming within 75 ft of us. The jet pilot had his head down doing a radio check. At his speed and that close to a high density airport he needs to keep his head up. This is a high density area for traffic between the bay area and the valley. We were trying to stay clear of the V244 traffic and the ILS and other traffic going into and out of livermore (lvk). X-mil aircraft, primarily high speed fighters and jets, need to be under some type of positive control (IFR). Many of these aircraft are flown by pilots who have very little proper training.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: ON A RETURN FLT FROM BYRON (4Q5) TO HAYWARD (HWD) AT 4500 FT ABOUT 5 MI S OF ALTAM (V244) AN FO FTR MADE A DSNDING R TURN PASSING THROUGH OUR ALT AND PASSING FROM OUR 5 O'CLOCK TO OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS COMING WITHIN 75 FT OF US. THE JET PLT HAD HIS HEAD DOWN DOING A RADIO CHK. AT HIS SPD AND THAT CLOSE TO A HIGH DENSITY ARPT HE NEEDS TO KEEP HIS HEAD UP. THIS IS A HIGH DENSITY AREA FOR TFC BTWN THE BAY AREA AND THE VALLEY. WE WERE TRYING TO STAY CLR OF THE V244 TFC AND THE ILS AND OTHER TFC GOING INTO AND OUT OF LIVERMORE (LVK). X-MIL ACFT, PRIMARILY HIGH SPD FIGHTERS AND JETS, NEED TO BE UNDER SOME TYPE OF POSITIVE CTL (IFR). MANY OF THESE ACFT ARE FLOWN BY PLTS WHO HAVE VERY LITTLE PROPER TRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.