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Attributes | |
ACN | 186487 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mtp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 15 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1360 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 186487 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time total : 400 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 186759 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On aug/sat/91 mr X, a member of a flying club in bridgeport, ct, came to satisfy his 90-day club currency. To satisfy this requirement, the member must do 3 takeoffs and lndgs with an instructor. I chose to help mr X by observing from the right seat. Upon completion, mr X was competent to make takeoffs and lndgs in the small aircraft. No logbook was presented, but a club record was filled out with my name by mr X. The record stated that he was current to fly the small aircraft and also that his medical was current. Mr X stated that he had in excess of 400 hours and was instrument current with over 30 hours in type. The following morning mr X, with 4 passenger, flew to montauk, new york. The flight was on an IFR flight plan. 2 approachs were attempted. During the second approach, a landing was attempted. The aircraft stalled at 15-20 ft AGL (according to pilot), hit a sand dune, skidded across the runway, and came to rest on the side of the runway. There were only minor injuries. It seems that pilots with as many hours as mr X must understand their abilities. A program must be implemented that would require pilots to better understand their personal limitations. Other factors affecting the flight were: 1800 ft narrow rough runway, landing with a tailwind, obstacles at both ends of runway, and flying at or over gross weight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA STALLED OUT ON FINAL APCH AND LANDED SHORT OF THE RWY GND LOOPING AS IT ROLLED.
Narrative: ON AUG/SAT/91 MR X, A MEMBER OF A FLYING CLUB IN BRIDGEPORT, CT, CAME TO SATISFY HIS 90-DAY CLUB CURRENCY. TO SATISFY THIS REQUIREMENT, THE MEMBER MUST DO 3 TKOFS AND LNDGS WITH AN INSTRUCTOR. I CHOSE TO HELP MR X BY OBSERVING FROM THE R SEAT. UPON COMPLETION, MR X WAS COMPETENT TO MAKE TKOFS AND LNDGS IN THE SMA. NO LOGBOOK WAS PRESENTED, BUT A CLUB RECORD WAS FILLED OUT WITH MY NAME BY MR X. THE RECORD STATED THAT HE WAS CURRENT TO FLY THE SMA AND ALSO THAT HIS MEDICAL WAS CURRENT. MR X STATED THAT HE HAD IN EXCESS OF 400 HRS AND WAS INST CURRENT WITH OVER 30 HRS IN TYPE. THE FOLLOWING MORNING MR X, WITH 4 PAX, FLEW TO MONTAUK, NEW YORK. THE FLT WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN. 2 APCHS WERE ATTEMPTED. DURING THE SECOND APCH, A LNDG WAS ATTEMPTED. THE ACFT STALLED AT 15-20 FT AGL (ACCORDING TO PLT), HIT A SAND DUNE, SKIDDED ACROSS THE RWY, AND CAME TO REST ON THE SIDE OF THE RWY. THERE WERE ONLY MINOR INJURIES. IT SEEMS THAT PLTS WITH AS MANY HRS AS MR X MUST UNDERSTAND THEIR ABILITIES. A PROGRAM MUST BE IMPLEMENTED THAT WOULD REQUIRE PLTS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR PERSONAL LIMITATIONS. OTHER FACTORS AFFECTING THE FLT WERE: 1800 FT NARROW ROUGH RWY, LNDG WITH A TAILWIND, OBSTACLES AT BOTH ENDS OF RWY, AND FLYING AT OR OVER GROSS WT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.