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Attributes | |
ACN | 187226 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lhs airport : bur |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7800 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute airway : bur |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 1010 flight time type : 90 |
ASRS Report | 187226 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was following a STAR to bur for a landing. My altitude was 9000 ft approaching the lynxx 6 arrival which was assigned to me. Upon reaching the lake hughes VOR I began to descend to 7800 ft as published. The controller called me and said 'you are maintaining 9000 ft aren't you?' I replied that I was descending to 7800 ft as indicated on the arrival. He informed me I could be violated and that I was to maintain altitude until instructed otherwise by ATC, unless I was following a profile view. I have since questioned a few pilots on this matter. Most are not certain. I feel instructors should put more emphasis on this phase of training (stars/sids).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA ASSIGNED A STAR DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: I WAS FOLLOWING A STAR TO BUR FOR A LNDG. MY ALT WAS 9000 FT APCHING THE LYNXX 6 ARR WHICH WAS ASSIGNED TO ME. UPON REACHING THE LAKE HUGHES VOR I BEGAN TO DSND TO 7800 FT AS PUBLISHED. THE CTLR CALLED ME AND SAID 'YOU ARE MAINTAINING 9000 FT AREN'T YOU?' I REPLIED THAT I WAS DSNDING TO 7800 FT AS INDICATED ON THE ARR. HE INFORMED ME I COULD BE VIOLATED AND THAT I WAS TO MAINTAIN ALT UNTIL INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY ATC, UNLESS I WAS FOLLOWING A PROFILE VIEW. I HAVE SINCE QUESTIONED A FEW PLTS ON THIS MATTER. MOST ARE NOT CERTAIN. I FEEL INSTRUCTORS SHOULD PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON THIS PHASE OF TRAINING (STARS/SIDS).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.