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Attributes | |
ACN | 187612 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 130 |
ASRS Report | 187612 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 220 |
ASRS Report | 187346 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X after landing, given taxi to ramp via U and east. Saw men and a truck at intersection, at edge, outside lights. Informed ground. He told us to continue around them. We had good clearance so I did. Ground later apologized, saying also that he hadn't known they were out there painting. Supplemental information from acn 187346: air carrier X during taxi to the ramp on taxiway U, ground controller cleared us to taxi north on U, then west on east to the ramp. After instructions were issued I saw a truck and 2 men on taxiways U and east. I asked ground control about the truck and persons, he replied 'can you taxi on U to east around them'. I replied 'yes there appears to be enough room'. After taxiing as cleared onto the ramp, ground controller advised us the taxiway U was closed for painting and he was sorry about the instruction to taxi on a closed taxiway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GND CTL CLRED ACR X TO TAXI ON CLOSED TAXIWAY. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X AFTER LNDG, GIVEN TAXI TO RAMP VIA U AND E. SAW MEN AND A TRUCK AT INTXN, AT EDGE, OUTSIDE LIGHTS. INFORMED GND. HE TOLD US TO CONTINUE AROUND THEM. WE HAD GOOD CLRNC SO I DID. GND LATER APOLOGIZED, SAYING ALSO THAT HE HADN'T KNOWN THEY WERE OUT THERE PAINTING. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 187346: ACR X DURING TAXI TO THE RAMP ON TAXIWAY U, GND CTLR CLRED US TO TAXI N ON U, THEN W ON E TO THE RAMP. AFTER INSTRUCTIONS WERE ISSUED I SAW A TRUCK AND 2 MEN ON TAXIWAYS U AND E. I ASKED GND CTL ABOUT THE TRUCK AND PERSONS, HE REPLIED 'CAN YOU TAXI ON U TO E AROUND THEM'. I REPLIED 'YES THERE APPEARS TO BE ENOUGH ROOM'. AFTER TAXIING AS CLRED ONTO THE RAMP, GND CTLR ADVISED US THE TAXIWAY U WAS CLOSED FOR PAINTING AND HE WAS SORRY ABOUT THE INSTRUCTION TO TAXI ON A CLOSED TAXIWAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.