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Flight crew of widebody transport had TCASII TA, loud TCASII announcement. Overshot assigned altitude departing sna. Speed deviation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 189910 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199109 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : noise abatement departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 189910 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departure control issued traffic at 2500. We just took off 19R and at 1800 MSL departure control told us to level off at 2000 which we did. Began flap retraction, power reduction, looking for traffic, with TCASII issuing very loud oral 'traffic, traffic' warnings. We visually sighted the aircraft, passed under it, but aircraft automatic throttles were on, and airspeed exceeded 250 KTS. Subsequent to passing the aircraft, we exceeded our cleared altitude by about 600 ft. ATC then cleared us to a higher altitude. What caused the problem? 1) a non standard takeoff profile. 2) TCASII oral warnings so loud that no other communications are possible. 3) very infrequent departures from that very noise sensitive airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF WDB HAD TCASII TA, LOUD TCASII ANNOUNCEMENT. OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT DEPARTING SNA. SPD DEV.
Narrative: DEP CTL ISSUED TFC AT 2500. WE JUST TOOK OFF 19R AND AT 1800 MSL DEP CTL TOLD US TO LEVEL OFF AT 2000 WHICH WE DID. BEGAN FLAP RETRACTION, PWR REDUCTION, LOOKING FOR TFC, WITH TCASII ISSUING VERY LOUD ORAL 'TFC, TFC' WARNINGS. WE VISUALLY SIGHTED THE ACFT, PASSED UNDER IT, BUT ACFT AUTO THROTTLES WERE ON, AND AIRSPD EXCEEDED 250 KTS. SUBSEQUENT TO PASSING THE ACFT, WE EXCEEDED OUR CLRED ALT BY ABOUT 600 FT. ATC THEN CLRED US TO A HIGHER ALT. WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM? 1) A NON STANDARD TKOF PROFILE. 2) TCASII ORAL WARNINGS SO LOUD THAT NO OTHER COMS ARE POSSIBLE. 3) VERY INFREQUENT DEPS FROM THAT VERY NOISE SENSITIVE ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.