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Attributes | |
ACN | 190794 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mil |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mil |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 41 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 190794 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I'm a check airman for a major carrier. Most of my time is spent working in the simulators and I don't get a lot of 'hands on' flying. When I'm in the airplane, it's usually spent watching another pilot fly while I check him out. This event occurred during a flight I made for my own proficiency. In fact, it had been almost 2 months since I'd flown for myself. It was the first time into milan for both the copilot and myself. The copilot had flown the leg over and I was going to fly the leg back. We noticed some altitude crossing restrictions on the departure procedure during our cockpit set up before starting engines. In fact there were 4 of these 'at or above' restrictions. I thought I was ready mentally for the departure and I had picked this leg to fly purposely. I did not expect to be leveled at FL80 by the controller. The first part of the departure went well, but when I tried to follow the 'raw data' too closely, I allowed my speed to creep up to 280 KTS at 1 point during a 90 degree left turn. We were IFR at the time and I did not do a great job of hand flying. I became distraction and forgot about the 15000 or above restriction passing rmg until the first officer mentioned it. About this time the controller asked if we were 'ground contact', which we were. I crossed rmg at about 13700 ft. The crew assumed too much in my ability and did not warn me soon enough. For my part, I should have let the copilot fly the leg. But, the main thing is that I must fly the airplane more often for my own proficiency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING DEP FROM MILAN, LINE CHK AIRMAN MISSES ALT XING RESTRICTION AND ALLOWS SPD TO INCREASE 30 KTS.
Narrative: I'M A CHK AIRMAN FOR A MAJOR CARRIER. MOST OF MY TIME IS SPENT WORKING IN THE SIMULATORS AND I DON'T GET A LOT OF 'HANDS ON' FLYING. WHEN I'M IN THE AIRPLANE, IT'S USUALLY SPENT WATCHING ANOTHER PLT FLY WHILE I CHK HIM OUT. THIS EVENT OCCURRED DURING A FLT I MADE FOR MY OWN PROFICIENCY. IN FACT, IT HAD BEEN ALMOST 2 MONTHS SINCE I'D FLOWN FOR MYSELF. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME INTO MILAN FOR BOTH THE COPLT AND MYSELF. THE COPLT HAD FLOWN THE LEG OVER AND I WAS GOING TO FLY THE LEG BACK. WE NOTICED SOME ALT XING RESTRICTIONS ON THE DEP PROC DURING OUR COCKPIT SET UP BEFORE STARTING ENGS. IN FACT THERE WERE 4 OF THESE 'AT OR ABOVE' RESTRICTIONS. I THOUGHT I WAS READY MENTALLY FOR THE DEP AND I HAD PICKED THIS LEG TO FLY PURPOSELY. I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE LEVELED AT FL80 BY THE CTLR. THE FIRST PART OF THE DEP WENT WELL, BUT WHEN I TRIED TO FOLLOW THE 'RAW DATA' TOO CLOSELY, I ALLOWED MY SPD TO CREEP UP TO 280 KTS AT 1 POINT DURING A 90 DEG L TURN. WE WERE IFR AT THE TIME AND I DID NOT DO A GREAT JOB OF HAND FLYING. I BECAME DISTR AND FORGOT ABOUT THE 15000 OR ABOVE RESTRICTION PASSING RMG UNTIL THE FO MENTIONED IT. ABOUT THIS TIME THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE 'GND CONTACT', WHICH WE WERE. I CROSSED RMG AT ABOUT 13700 FT. THE CREW ASSUMED TOO MUCH IN MY ABILITY AND DID NOT WARN ME SOON ENOUGH. FOR MY PART, I SHOULD HAVE LET THE COPLT FLY THE LEG. BUT, THE MAIN THING IS THAT I MUST FLY THE AIRPLANE MORE OFTEN FOR MY OWN PROFICIENCY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.