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Attributes | |
ACN | 191322 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tfd airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v94 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 175 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 191322 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 499 vertical : 499 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was approaching my final destination, sky harbor, az, on an IFR flight plan with the visibility marginal, caused by the sun. Traffic was extremely difficult to visually spot. On either phoenix or albuquerque approach I heard another small aircraft reporting a near miss. Immediately I turned to my 6 O'clock and spotted the traffic (small high wing). The traffic first inquired the approach controller about the near miss complaining that he was to receive radar coverage from their spiraling descent from 14000 after dropping jumpers. The approach controller returned stating that no traffic had been seen on radar. With a visual on the spiraling traffic, now a mi behind, I immediately questioned the controller. I stated my call sign, location, and the possibility of being the traffic in the near collision. Also, I asked if I myself was on radar coverage giving my squawk code, concerned because I myself was filed as IFR and should have been warned about the traffic behind me. Upon my request there was no immediate answer. However, after a short pause, I was requested to descend to 8000 from my cruise of 10000. This situation arose from a spiraling descent of one aircraft onto another lower aircraft, limiting the visibility of both. Without warning of traffic such as this, very serious situations can arise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR ACFT HAS NMAC WITH PARADROP ACFT DSNDING NEAR THE AIRWAY.
Narrative: I WAS APCHING MY FINAL DEST, SKY HARBOR, AZ, ON AN IFR FLT PLAN WITH THE VISIBILITY MARGINAL, CAUSED BY THE SUN. TFC WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO VISUALLY SPOT. ON EITHER PHOENIX OR ALBUQUERQUE APCH I HEARD ANOTHER SMALL ACFT RPTING A NEAR MISS. IMMEDIATELY I TURNED TO MY 6 O'CLOCK AND SPOTTED THE TFC (SMALL HIGH WING). THE TFC FIRST INQUIRED THE APCH CTLR ABOUT THE NEAR MISS COMPLAINING THAT HE WAS TO RECEIVE RADAR COVERAGE FROM THEIR SPIRALING DSCNT FROM 14000 AFTER DROPPING JUMPERS. THE APCH CTLR RETURNED STATING THAT NO TFC HAD BEEN SEEN ON RADAR. WITH A VISUAL ON THE SPIRALING TFC, NOW A MI BEHIND, I IMMEDIATELY QUESTIONED THE CTLR. I STATED MY CALL SIGN, LOCATION, AND THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING THE TFC IN THE NEAR COLLISION. ALSO, I ASKED IF I MYSELF WAS ON RADAR COVERAGE GIVING MY SQUAWK CODE, CONCERNED BECAUSE I MYSELF WAS FILED AS IFR AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARNED ABOUT THE TFC BEHIND ME. UPON MY REQUEST THERE WAS NO IMMEDIATE ANSWER. HOWEVER, AFTER A SHORT PAUSE, I WAS REQUESTED TO DSND TO 8000 FROM MY CRUISE OF 10000. THIS SITUATION AROSE FROM A SPIRALING DSCNT OF ONE ACFT ONTO ANOTHER LOWER ACFT, LIMITING THE VISIBILITY OF BOTH. WITHOUT WARNING OF TFC SUCH AS THIS, VERY SERIOUS SITUATIONS CAN ARISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.