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Attributes | |
ACN | 304192 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : psm |
State Reference | NH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 2600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mht |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 190 |
ASRS Report | 304192 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
IFR training flight to providence, ATC clearance in use, before takeoff, tower advised that approach reported traffic southeast of the airport at 2500 ft. I acknowledged, and searched for traffic on departure. I found none. My IFR student contacted approach after flying runway heading. (160 degrees) approach told us to identify. Just as we did, I saw the traffic pass right to left under us, it appeared to be descending as we were climbing. I can't really tell exactly how close it was, but possibly less than 100 ft. Approach advised us to be in radar contact and we received vectors but no advisory, although the aircraft passed behind us. I feel that the other aircraft may have been in class 'D' without talking to tower, but, it was closer than I like it to get. Perhaps approach should not have released us for clearance until this traffic cleared our departure track.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A DEP SMA SEL IFR AND ANOTHER ACFT DSNDING WITHIN CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Narrative: IFR TRAINING FLT TO PROVIDENCE, ATC CLRNC IN USE, BEFORE TKOF, TWR ADVISED THAT APCH RPTED TFC SE OF THE ARPT AT 2500 FT. I ACKNOWLEDGED, AND SEARCHED FOR TFC ON DEP. I FOUND NONE. MY IFR STUDENT CONTACTED APCH AFTER FLYING RWY HDG. (160 DEGS) APCH TOLD US TO IDENT. JUST AS WE DID, I SAW THE TFC PASS R TO L UNDER US, IT APPEARED TO BE DSNDING AS WE WERE CLBING. I CAN'T REALLY TELL EXACTLY HOW CLOSE IT WAS, BUT POSSIBLY LESS THAN 100 FT. APCH ADVISED US TO BE IN RADAR CONTACT AND WE RECEIVED VECTORS BUT NO ADVISORY, ALTHOUGH THE ACFT PASSED BEHIND US. I FEEL THAT THE OTHER ACFT MAY HAVE BEEN IN CLASS 'D' WITHOUT TALKING TO TWR, BUT, IT WAS CLOSER THAN I LIKE IT TO GET. PERHAPS APCH SHOULD NOT HAVE RELEASED US FOR CLRNC UNTIL THIS TFC CLRED OUR DEP TRACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.