Air carrier medium large transport track heading deviation on STAR into pdx.

Attributes
ACN	191944
Time
Date	199110
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : imb
State Reference	OR
Altitude	msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zse tower : frg
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	191944
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were proceeding direct to imb and transitioning to bonvl 2 arrival to pdx, captain flying. He didn't turn right away to get on proper radial departing imb VOR. 50 degree difference between radial we were on and proper outbound radial finally noticed his error and started a 10 degree bank correction to get on course. At this time seattle center asked us to confirm our intentions of flying the bonvl 2 arrival. I answered yes and that we were in the turn at this time, but at 10 degree bank angle we weren't setting any records getting over. And then to my surprise he only went 10 degree past the radial to intercept. At this time the RMI showed a difference of 40 degree between where we were and the radial we wanted to be on. I told the captain that he needed a bigger correction and he laughed it off saying he wanted to cut the corner. We were 50 DME past imb before getting on the radial. I recently downgraded from captain to first officer to stay in base. I have never seen such lax navigating as I've seen in the past 4 months, and with other capts too. I get the feeling they think close is ok. Not in my book it isn't.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG TRACK HDG DEV ON STAR INTO PDX.

Narrative: WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO IMB AND TRANSITIONING TO BONVL 2 ARR TO PDX, CAPT FLYING. HE DIDN'T TURN RIGHT AWAY TO GET ON PROPER RADIAL DEPARTING IMB VOR. 50 DEG DIFFERENCE BTWN RADIAL WE WERE ON AND PROPER OUTBOUND RADIAL FINALLY NOTICED HIS ERROR AND STARTED A 10 DEG BANK CORRECTION TO GET ON COURSE. AT THIS TIME SEATTLE CENTER ASKED US TO CONFIRM OUR INTENTIONS OF FLYING THE BONVL 2 ARR. I ANSWERED YES AND THAT WE WERE IN THE TURN AT THIS TIME, BUT AT 10 DEG BANK ANGLE WE WEREN'T SETTING ANY RECORDS GETTING OVER. AND THEN TO MY SURPRISE HE ONLY WENT 10 DEG PAST THE RADIAL TO INTERCEPT. AT THIS TIME THE RMI SHOWED A DIFFERENCE OF 40 DEG BTWN WHERE WE WERE AND THE RADIAL WE WANTED TO BE ON. I TOLD THE CAPT THAT HE NEEDED A BIGGER CORRECTION AND HE LAUGHED IT OFF SAYING HE WANTED TO CUT THE CORNER. WE WERE 50 DME PAST IMB BEFORE GETTING ON THE RADIAL. I RECENTLY DOWNGRADED FROM CAPT TO FO TO STAY IN BASE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH LAX NAVIGATING AS I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST 4 MONTHS, AND WITH OTHER CAPTS TOO. I GET THE FEELING THEY THINK CLOSE IS OK. NOT IN MY BOOK IT ISN'T.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.