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Attributes | |
ACN | 192345 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 192345 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were on a radar vectored heading of 080 degree, level at 10000 ft on dfw regional departure control when we were given a clearance to turn left heading 350 degree. At that time we noticed traffic at our 10-11 O'clock position on the TCASII display and at 400 ft below our altitude and within 3 NM at the moment we got a TCASII RA alert and started a climb based on the information on the ivsi. Immediately thereafter we received clearance from ATC to climb to 17000 ft. I believe problem was caused in part by the following: 1) lack of traffic information by ATC. 2) VFR traffic mixing with IFR traffic in congested airspace. 3) increased crew workload associated with acceleration of jet traffic at 10000 ft along with ATC clearance to turn to new heading. I believe a lot of these kinds of problems can be corrected by raising the ceiling of a busy TCA to 11000 ft MSL to facilitate level off and acceleration of turbojet aircraft at a time when most crews are busy in the transition, especially in a 2 person crew.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALTDEV EXCURSION FROM CLRNC ALT IN RESPONSE TO TCASII RA.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A RADAR VECTORED HDG OF 080 DEG, LEVEL AT 10000 FT ON DFW REGIONAL DEP CTL WHEN WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO TURN L HDG 350 DEG. AT THAT TIME WE NOTICED TFC AT OUR 10-11 O'CLOCK POS ON THE TCASII DISPLAY AND AT 400 FT BELOW OUR ALT AND WITHIN 3 NM AT THE MOMENT WE GOT A TCASII RA ALERT AND STARTED A CLB BASED ON THE INFO ON THE IVSI. IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER WE RECEIVED CLRNC FROM ATC TO CLB TO 17000 FT. I BELIEVE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED IN PART BY THE FOLLOWING: 1) LACK OF TFC INFO BY ATC. 2) VFR TFC MIXING WITH IFR TFC IN CONGESTED AIRSPACE. 3) INCREASED CREW WORKLOAD ASSOCIATED WITH ACCELERATION OF JET TFC AT 10000 FT ALONG WITH ATC CLRNC TO TURN TO NEW HDG. I BELIEVE A LOT OF THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS CAN BE CORRECTED BY RAISING THE CEILING OF A BUSY TCA TO 11000 FT MSL TO FACILITATE LEVEL OFF AND ACCELERATION OF TURBOJET ACFT AT A TIME WHEN MOST CREWS ARE BUSY IN THE TRANSITION, ESPECIALLY IN A 2 PERSON CREW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.