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Attributes | |
ACN | 192497 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bty |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 26000 msl bound upper : 27000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 192497 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X departed bty VOR on the fuzzy arrival to las and was on the bty 115 degree radial at approximately 20 NM. Level at 27000. Lax center then cleared us to cross fuzzy intersection at 16000. I acknowledged and checked the flight manage computer for our descent point (which was another 14 NM) and noticed on the TCASII that we had traffic at 12 O'clock, 12 mi, 26000 ft, opposite direction. I instructed the first officer to inquire about the traffic. He was unable to do so for about 20 seconds due to conflicting radio transmissions. Before he could inquire, center advised us to maintain 27000. We acknowledged and stated we had traffic on TCASII. Center did not respond. I did not begin my descent because I was not quite to my programmed descent point, but more importantly because of the observed conflict on TCASII. Had I elected to descend when cleared, a definite conflict would have arisen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X MAINTAINED LAST ASSIGNED ALT AFTER TCASII TA WITH ACFT Y.
Narrative: ACR X DEPARTED BTY VOR ON THE FUZZY ARR TO LAS AND WAS ON THE BTY 115 DEG RADIAL AT APPROX 20 NM. LEVEL AT 27000. LAX CENTER THEN CLRED US TO CROSS FUZZY INTXN AT 16000. I ACKNOWLEDGED AND CHKED THE FLT MANAGE COMPUTER FOR OUR DSCNT POINT (WHICH WAS ANOTHER 14 NM) AND NOTICED ON THE TCASII THAT WE HAD TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK, 12 MI, 26000 FT, OPPOSITE DIRECTION. I INSTRUCTED THE FO TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE TFC. HE WAS UNABLE TO DO SO FOR ABOUT 20 SECONDS DUE TO CONFLICTING RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. BEFORE HE COULD INQUIRE, CENTER ADVISED US TO MAINTAIN 27000. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND STATED WE HAD TFC ON TCASII. CENTER DID NOT RESPOND. I DID NOT BEGIN MY DSCNT BECAUSE I WAS NOT QUITE TO MY PROGRAMMED DSCNT POINT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE OF THE OBSERVED CONFLICT ON TCASII. HAD I ELECTED TO DSND WHEN CLRED, A DEFINITE CONFLICT WOULD HAVE ARISEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.