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Attributes | |
ACN | 193537 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lit |
State Reference | AR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lit |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 193537 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
IFR flight from lit to chillicothe, mo, and back to lit. 2 instrument approachs, plus holding at chillicothe ate into fuel supply. Landed at chillicothe, no jet fuel available (we knew that). Departed chillicothe for lit. WX update en route showed lit above mins until passing harrison, ar. We called adams tower, they said people were still getting in. Arriving at lit RVR was down to 1600. Operating under part 91, we shot the approach. At precision height I saw approach lights. At 100 ft AGL I saw the runway. I called runway in sight, but added, 'I don't think we have a 1/2 mi'. Captain said, 'I've got the runway' and landed. Far 91.175(D) refers to 'flight visibility' which can only be seen from the cockpit. 91.175(H) refers to RVR values which were reported for this runway. Flight visibility was more than 1600 ft, but less than 1/2 mi. It was adequate for a normal landing. However, this is one the FAA could nail us on if they wanted to. Contributing factors: fuel stop not made en route to lit because WX was holding above mins. At start of approach at lit, fuel on board estimated at 1 hour 15 mins. Closest alternate, memphis, 35 mins flying time. WX at memphis 3000 scattered, visibility 5 mi. WX south of route from lit-mem forecasting thunderstorms and worsening conditions. I guess we got caught up in get homeitis.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR SMT APCH LNDG IN WX RPTED BELOW ARPT MINS FOR LNDG.
Narrative: IFR FLT FROM LIT TO CHILLICOTHE, MO, AND BACK TO LIT. 2 INST APCHS, PLUS HOLDING AT CHILLICOTHE ATE INTO FUEL SUPPLY. LANDED AT CHILLICOTHE, NO JET FUEL AVAILABLE (WE KNEW THAT). DEPARTED CHILLICOTHE FOR LIT. WX UPDATE ENRTE SHOWED LIT ABOVE MINS UNTIL PASSING HARRISON, AR. WE CALLED ADAMS TWR, THEY SAID PEOPLE WERE STILL GETTING IN. ARRIVING AT LIT RVR WAS DOWN TO 1600. OPERATING UNDER PART 91, WE SHOT THE APCH. AT PRECISION HEIGHT I SAW APCH LIGHTS. AT 100 FT AGL I SAW THE RWY. I CALLED RWY IN SIGHT, BUT ADDED, 'I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A 1/2 MI'. CAPT SAID, 'I'VE GOT THE RWY' AND LANDED. FAR 91.175(D) REFERS TO 'FLT VISIBILITY' WHICH CAN ONLY BE SEEN FROM THE COCKPIT. 91.175(H) REFERS TO RVR VALUES WHICH WERE RPTED FOR THIS RWY. FLT VISIBILITY WAS MORE THAN 1600 FT, BUT LESS THAN 1/2 MI. IT WAS ADEQUATE FOR A NORMAL LNDG. HOWEVER, THIS IS ONE THE FAA COULD NAIL US ON IF THEY WANTED TO. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: FUEL STOP NOT MADE ENRTE TO LIT BECAUSE WX WAS HOLDING ABOVE MINS. AT START OF APCH AT LIT, FUEL ON BOARD ESTIMATED AT 1 HR 15 MINS. CLOSEST ALTERNATE, MEMPHIS, 35 MINS FLYING TIME. WX AT MEMPHIS 3000 SCATTERED, VISIBILITY 5 MI. WX S OF RTE FROM LIT-MEM FORECASTING TSTMS AND WORSENING CONDITIONS. I GUESS WE GOT CAUGHT UP IN GET HOMEITIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.