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Attributes | |
ACN | 193683 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : spa |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23700 msl bound upper : 25800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ztl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15500 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 193683 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 0 |
ASRS Report | 193887 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This incident happened at approximately XX54 EST while climbing out of atl en route to lga. We were approximately 35 mi southwest of the spa VOR and had been cleared to FL250. We were passing through FL23.7 when we got a traffic alert on our TCASII system which indicated an aircraft at our 10 O'clock position coming toward us. Almost immediately, the controller asked us if we were level at FL230. We replied that we had been cleared to FL250 at which time he told us to 'expedite' to FL250, and told the aircraft in conflict to descend. In the meantime, I had spotted the traffic and had taken the aircraft off autoplt. I pulled us abruptly while keeping the other aircraft in sight and inadvertently climbed to FL25.8 before leveling off. The controller then asked us what our altitude was and we replied that we had inadvertently climbed to FL25.8 in response to the TCASII alert and while visually trying to avoid the conflicting aircraft. He then told us to continue climb to FL270. We explained to the controller that we had indeed been cleared to FL250 and to check his tapes. Later after being handed off to the next controller, she relayed a message from the previous controller saying that he appreciated the expeditious climb and that there was no problem about the altitude. I believe the problem occurred because the controller had initially cleared us to FL230 and then changed his mind and told us to continue our climb to FL250. I think he simply forgot that he had cleared us on up and that resulted in the traffic conflict. Supplemental information from acn 193887. I believe the problem started when atl center cleared us as follows: 'cleared to FL230, expect FL250 in ...never mind, climb to FL250 this time.' our response was 'roger, out of FL220 for FL250.' I think the controller just forgot the altitude we were cleared to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR CLBED LGT THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT WITH LTSS. CONFLICT ALERT ACTIVATED AS WELL AS TCASII TA RA.
Narrative: THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED AT APPROX XX54 EST WHILE CLBING OUT OF ATL ENRTE TO LGA. WE WERE APPROX 35 MI SW OF THE SPA VOR AND HAD BEEN CLRED TO FL250. WE WERE PASSING THROUGH FL23.7 WHEN WE GOT A TFC ALERT ON OUR TCASII SYS WHICH INDICATED AN ACFT AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS COMING TOWARD US. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, THE CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE LEVEL AT FL230. WE REPLIED THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO FL250 AT WHICH TIME HE TOLD US TO 'EXPEDITE' TO FL250, AND TOLD THE ACFT IN CONFLICT TO DSND. IN THE MEANTIME, I HAD SPOTTED THE TFC AND HAD TAKEN THE ACFT OFF AUTOPLT. I PULLED US ABRUPTLY WHILE KEEPING THE OTHER ACFT IN SIGHT AND INADVERTENTLY CLBED TO FL25.8 BEFORE LEVELING OFF. THE CTLR THEN ASKED US WHAT OUR ALT WAS AND WE REPLIED THAT WE HAD INADVERTENTLY CLBED TO FL25.8 IN RESPONSE TO THE TCASII ALERT AND WHILE VISUALLY TRYING TO AVOID THE CONFLICTING ACFT. HE THEN TOLD US TO CONTINUE CLB TO FL270. WE EXPLAINED TO THE CTLR THAT WE HAD INDEED BEEN CLRED TO FL250 AND TO CHK HIS TAPES. LATER AFTER BEING HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR, SHE RELAYED A MESSAGE FROM THE PREVIOUS CTLR SAYING THAT HE APPRECIATED THE EXPEDITIOUS CLB AND THAT THERE WAS NO PROBLEM ABOUT THE ALT. I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM OCCURRED BECAUSE THE CTLR HAD INITIALLY CLRED US TO FL230 AND THEN CHANGED HIS MIND AND TOLD US TO CONTINUE OUR CLB TO FL250. I THINK HE SIMPLY FORGOT THAT HE HAD CLRED US ON UP AND THAT RESULTED IN THE TFC CONFLICT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 193887. I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM STARTED WHEN ATL CENTER CLRED US AS FOLLOWS: 'CLRED TO FL230, EXPECT FL250 IN ...NEVER MIND, CLB TO FL250 THIS TIME.' OUR RESPONSE WAS 'ROGER, OUT OF FL220 FOR FL250.' I THINK THE CTLR JUST FORGOT THE ALT WE WERE CLRED TO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.