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Attributes | |
ACN | 193935 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 193935 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared for a visual approach to runway 10L at pit. We were following a widebody transport Y. When we changed over to tower frequency (128.3) the tower advised us that we were 3 mi behind the heavy, cautioned us on wake turbulence and cleared us to land. Shortly thereafter the widebody transport Y crew requested permission to 'roll to the end.' tower advised them that there was landing traffic 3 mi in trail and that a roll to the end couldn't be permitted. We were only several hundred ft off the runway when the widebody transport Y rolled by his last opportunity to clear on a high speed taxiway (N-4). I advised my first officer to standby for a go around. The tower controller came on and directed the widebody transport Y to make the next right turn (N-3) and then reclred us to land. The widebody transport Y rolled by N-3 about the time we touched down. He finally did clear at the end and we cleared at N-5. For several seconds we were both on the active landing runway. The widebody transport Y had agreed to clear at N-3 and both the controller and I based our moves on his acknowledgement of the taxi clearance. Nothing further was said about what happened and no telephone calls were required but I am concerned about what happened.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB FAILED TO CLR THE RWY AS INSTRUCTED, MLG LANDED WHILE WDB ON RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 10L AT PIT. WE WERE FOLLOWING A WDB Y. WHEN WE CHANGED OVER TO TWR FREQ (128.3) THE TWR ADVISED US THAT WE WERE 3 MI BEHIND THE HVY, CAUTIONED US ON WAKE TURBULENCE AND CLRED US TO LAND. SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE WDB Y CREW REQUESTED PERMISSION TO 'ROLL TO THE END.' TWR ADVISED THEM THAT THERE WAS LNDG TFC 3 MI IN TRAIL AND THAT A ROLL TO THE END COULDN'T BE PERMITTED. WE WERE ONLY SEVERAL HUNDRED FT OFF THE RWY WHEN THE WDB Y ROLLED BY HIS LAST OPPORTUNITY TO CLR ON A HIGH SPD TAXIWAY (N-4). I ADVISED MY FO TO STANDBY FOR A GAR. THE TWR CTLR CAME ON AND DIRECTED THE WDB Y TO MAKE THE NEXT R TURN (N-3) AND THEN RECLRED US TO LAND. THE WDB Y ROLLED BY N-3 ABOUT THE TIME WE TOUCHED DOWN. HE FINALLY DID CLR AT THE END AND WE CLRED AT N-5. FOR SEVERAL SECONDS WE WERE BOTH ON THE ACTIVE LNDG RWY. THE WDB Y HAD AGREED TO CLR AT N-3 AND BOTH THE CTLR AND I BASED OUR MOVES ON HIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE TAXI CLRNC. NOTHING FURTHER WAS SAID ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND NO TELEPHONE CALLS WERE REQUIRED BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.