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Attributes | |
ACN | 194087 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ind |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ind |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 28000 flight time type : 3700 |
ASRS Report | 194087 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Level flight right downwind for runway 23L at kind got a TA at 2 1/2 mi. At approximately 2 mi the TCASII changed to an RA with voice response. First officer disconnected autoplt and climbed to 7400 to resolve conflict while captain advised ATC of deviation. After clear of conflict we returned to 7000 ft. After arrival I called the control room on the telephone and was told that the VFR traffic at 6500 ft was being worked by another controller who had failed to advise my controller. Seems to me you need only 1 controller for a given sector to avoid this sort of thing. It should be noted that another transport 2 mi behind me at 8000 ft received an RA on me when I broke 7000 to avoid conflict ahead of me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALTDEV EXCURSION FROM CLRNC ALT IN RESPONSE TO TCASII RA.
Narrative: LEVEL FLT R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 23L AT KIND GOT A TA AT 2 1/2 MI. AT APPROX 2 MI THE TCASII CHANGED TO AN RA WITH VOICE RESPONSE. FO DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND CLBED TO 7400 TO RESOLVE CONFLICT WHILE CAPT ADVISED ATC OF DEV. AFTER CLR OF CONFLICT WE RETURNED TO 7000 FT. AFTER ARR I CALLED THE CTL ROOM ON THE TELEPHONE AND WAS TOLD THAT THE VFR TFC AT 6500 FT WAS BEING WORKED BY ANOTHER CTLR WHO HAD FAILED TO ADVISE MY CTLR. SEEMS TO ME YOU NEED ONLY 1 CTLR FOR A GIVEN SECTOR TO AVOID THIS SORT OF THING. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT ANOTHER TRANSPORT 2 MI BEHIND ME AT 8000 FT RECEIVED AN RA ON ME WHEN I BROKE 7000 TO AVOID CONFLICT AHEAD OF ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.