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Attributes | |
ACN | 197365 |
Time | |
Date | 199112 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lan |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lan tower : lan |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 197365 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending into lansing, approach asked us if we had the airport in sight, the captain told me to say yes. We were cleared for the visual approach. The captain soon realized that what he was looking at was not the airport. We soon saw the airport and had to make a fairly large correction to the east. At which time lansing tower said we were still cleared for the visual, but implied that they were wondering why we were so far south of the airport. If there had been traffic on downwind there could have been a conflict, since tower was expecting us to be out on final based on approach control's previous vectors. Don't call the field in sight unless you are positive!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG TRYING TO CONTINUE A VISUAL APCH WITHOUT THE ARPT IN SIGHT.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO LANSING, APCH ASKED US IF WE HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT, THE CAPT TOLD ME TO SAY YES. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH. THE CAPT SOON REALIZED THAT WHAT HE WAS LOOKING AT WAS NOT THE ARPT. WE SOON SAW THE ARPT AND HAD TO MAKE A FAIRLY LARGE CORRECTION TO THE EAST. AT WHICH TIME LANSING TWR SAID WE WERE STILL CLRED FOR THE VISUAL, BUT IMPLIED THAT THEY WERE WONDERING WHY WE WERE SO FAR SOUTH OF THE ARPT. IF THERE HAD BEEN TFC ON DOWNWIND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A CONFLICT, SINCE TWR WAS EXPECTING US TO BE OUT ON FINAL BASED ON APCH CTL'S PREVIOUS VECTORS. DON'T CALL THE FIELD IN SIGHT UNLESS YOU ARE POSITIVE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.