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Attributes | |
ACN | 197509 |
Time | |
Date | 199112 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hdf airport : san |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san tracon : dov |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 197509 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 197567 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While level 10000 ft, 370 KTS, and navigating inbound to hdf VOR, we observed TCASII traffic at 400 ft, 5 mi ahead. We were looking for this traffic and trying to get a word in edgewise to san approach, who was controling us, but she was talking to another aircraft about a practice instrument approach. Meanwhile, the resolution alert on the TCASII activated and commanded a 2000 FPM climb which we initiated. When the conflict was clear and the TCASII gave us a monitor vertical speed, we began our descent back to 10000 ft having climbed to 11000 ft. We still could not contact approach, who was still talking to the other aircraft. Finally, we told the controller what had happened, and shortly thereafter, we got a second resolution alert on another set of traffic. We told the controller and she gave us a 20 degree heading change. The RA ended and the conflict was over.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ALTDEV EXCURSION FROM CLRNC ALT IN RESPONSE TO TCASII RA.
Narrative: WHILE LEVEL 10000 FT, 370 KTS, AND NAVIGATING INBOUND TO HDF VOR, WE OBSERVED TCASII TFC AT 400 FT, 5 MI AHEAD. WE WERE LOOKING FOR THIS TFC AND TRYING TO GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE TO SAN APCH, WHO WAS CTLING US, BUT SHE WAS TALKING TO ANOTHER ACFT ABOUT A PRACTICE INST APCH. MEANWHILE, THE RESOLUTION ALERT ON THE TCASII ACTIVATED AND COMMANDED A 2000 FPM CLB WHICH WE INITIATED. WHEN THE CONFLICT WAS CLR AND THE TCASII GAVE US A MONITOR VERT SPD, WE BEGAN OUR DSCNT BACK TO 10000 FT HAVING CLBED TO 11000 FT. WE STILL COULD NOT CONTACT APCH, WHO WAS STILL TALKING TO THE OTHER ACFT. FINALLY, WE TOLD THE CTLR WHAT HAD HAPPENED, AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE GOT A SECOND RESOLUTION ALERT ON ANOTHER SET OF TFC. WE TOLD THE CTLR AND SHE GAVE US A 20 DEG HDG CHANGE. THE RA ENDED AND THE CONFLICT WAS OVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.