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Attributes | |
ACN | 198401 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rdu |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4700 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 198401 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Flight mdt to rdu at 5000 ft heading 140 degrees. Radar vector for ILS 23R at rdu. ATC clearance 'turn right heading 210 degrees to join 23R localizer descend to 2200 ft.' as we started the turn we got a TCASII alert, the traffic was 3 O'clock and 2 mi. Reply 'we are unable to accept 210 degrees due to traffic.' ATC 'turn left heading 360 degrees.' at the time of the alert the traffic was at 4700 ft, we were at 5000 ft descending. We started left then back to the right heading 240 degrees to join 23R localizer, then 260 degrees to join 23R localizer, as cleared by ATC. At the assigned speed of 190 KTS we would have caught the traffic in the turn. This traffic was never reported to us by ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX COMMUTER MDT BEING VECTORED FOR ILS 23R AT RDU AND UNKNOWN ACFT IN THE AREA.
Narrative: FLT MDT TO RDU AT 5000 FT HDG 140 DEGS. RADAR VECTOR FOR ILS 23R AT RDU. ATC CLRNC 'TURN R HDG 210 DEGS TO JOIN 23R LOC DSND TO 2200 FT.' AS WE STARTED THE TURN WE GOT A TCASII ALERT, THE TFC WAS 3 O'CLOCK AND 2 MI. REPLY 'WE ARE UNABLE TO ACCEPT 210 DEGS DUE TO TFC.' ATC 'TURN L HDG 360 DEGS.' AT THE TIME OF THE ALERT THE TFC WAS AT 4700 FT, WE WERE AT 5000 FT DSNDING. WE STARTED L THEN BACK TO THE R HDG 240 DEGS TO JOIN 23R LOC, THEN 260 DEGS TO JOIN 23R LOC, AS CLRED BY ATC. AT THE ASSIGNED SPD OF 190 KTS WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE TFC IN THE TURN. THIS TFC WAS NEVER RPTED TO US BY ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.