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Attributes | |
ACN | 199080 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : cvg |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1900 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 199080 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On descent from 8000 to 2500 conflict arose with an medium large transport on crossing 4000 ft. No traffic call from the approach controller at any time nor any request to expedite descent was received. A contributing factor to this incident was in the fact that controllers handle a small turboprop aircraft as a second class citizen when in fact they should realize that we are professional pilots -- many of us are furloughed airline pilots. In discussing the incident with the approach control supervisor, I was told that the controller had misread my altitude believing that I was descending through 3000 ft when in fact I was descending through 4000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX ATX-SMT ACR-MLG NE OF CVG.
Narrative: ON DSCNT FROM 8000 TO 2500 CONFLICT AROSE WITH AN MLG ON XING 4000 FT. NO TFC CALL FROM THE APCH CTLR AT ANY TIME NOR ANY REQUEST TO EXPEDITE DSCNT WAS RECEIVED. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THIS INCIDENT WAS IN THE FACT THAT CTLRS HANDLE A SMALL TURBOPROP ACFT AS A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN WHEN IN FACT THEY SHOULD REALIZE THAT WE ARE PROFESSIONAL PLTS -- MANY OF US ARE FURLOUGHED AIRLINE PLTS. IN DISCUSSING THE INCIDENT WITH THE APCH CTL SUPVR, I WAS TOLD THAT THE CTLR HAD MISREAD MY ALT BELIEVING THAT I WAS DSNDING THROUGH 3000 FT WHEN IN FACT I WAS DSNDING THROUGH 4000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.