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Attributes | |
ACN | 201794 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : alb |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 16500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fyv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : zbw enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 201794 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 |
ASRS Report | 201795 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Flight dca to alb. We were en route at 15000 when ATC called traffic at 2 O'clock, approximately 10 NM, at 14000. We were IMC but had the traffic on TCASII. As we converged on the traffic our TCASII gave us a TA. Shortly after the vertical separation dropped below 1000 ft and we got a RA from TCASII to climb. We followed the TCASII climb command and advised ATC of our climb. We climbed to approximately 16500 before we got a clear of conflict advisory and we then returned to our assigned altitude. I do not think there ever really was a conflict, but the TCASII commands must be followed if you cannot visually confirm no conflict, I would think the problem is in the TCASII software. But as a pilot you do not know if it is that, or an altimeter error or ATC. All you can, and must do is comply with TCASII commands.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEV FROM ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: FLT DCA TO ALB. WE WERE ENRTE AT 15000 WHEN ATC CALLED TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK, APPROX 10 NM, AT 14000. WE WERE IMC BUT HAD THE TFC ON TCASII. AS WE CONVERGED ON THE TFC OUR TCASII GAVE US A TA. SHORTLY AFTER THE VERT SEPARATION DROPPED BELOW 1000 FT AND WE GOT A RA FROM TCASII TO CLB. WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII CLB COMMAND AND ADVISED ATC OF OUR CLB. WE CLBED TO APPROX 16500 BEFORE WE GOT A CLR OF CONFLICT ADVISORY AND WE THEN RETURNED TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT. I DO NOT THINK THERE EVER REALLY WAS A CONFLICT, BUT THE TCASII COMMANDS MUST BE FOLLOWED IF YOU CANNOT VISUALLY CONFIRM NO CONFLICT, I WOULD THINK THE PROBLEM IS IN THE TCASII SOFTWARE. BUT AS A PLT YOU DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS THAT, OR AN ALTIMETER ERROR OR ATC. ALL YOU CAN, AND MUST DO IS COMPLY WITH TCASII COMMANDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.