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Attributes | |
ACN | 203493 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 203493 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 215 flight time total : 26000 |
ASRS Report | 203522 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had been cleared into position to hold on runway 6R while a widebody transport cleared the runway. As the widebody transport cleared the runway, we were issued an altitude restriction for departure and cleared for takeoff. I read back the restriction and said 'here we go' to the tower controller. At about 80 KTS, the tower controller said we were cleared for takeoff. I responded he had already cleared us for takeoff. He then replied that had only issued an altitude restriction for our departure and not a takeoff clearance. Both pilot's felt certain the takeoff clearance had been issued at the time the departure restriction was issued.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNAUTHORIZED UNCOORD TKOF.
Narrative: WE HAD BEEN CLRED INTO POS TO HOLD ON RWY 6R WHILE A WDB CLRED THE RWY. AS THE WDB CLRED THE RWY, WE WERE ISSUED AN ALT RESTRICTION FOR DEP AND CLRED FOR TKOF. I READ BACK THE RESTRICTION AND SAID 'HERE WE GO' TO THE TWR CTLR. AT ABOUT 80 KTS, THE TWR CTLR SAID WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF. I RESPONDED HE HAD ALREADY CLRED US FOR TKOF. HE THEN REPLIED THAT HAD ONLY ISSUED AN ALT RESTRICTION FOR OUR DEP AND NOT A TKOF CLRNC. BOTH PLT'S FELT CERTAIN THE TKOF CLRNC HAD BEEN ISSUED AT THE TIME THE DEP RESTRICTION WAS ISSUED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.