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Attributes | |
ACN | 204810 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : yvr |
State Reference | BC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 204810 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6100 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 204808 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We were instructed to taxi from the gate to the active runway, via several taxiways to avoid a widebody transport pushing back from the inner concourse. As we proceeded around the south end of the terminal we remained on the taxiway that we believed was the taxiway leading to the active runway. Once we realized this, we stopped short of the runway. Ground control then called us and instructed us to proceed onto the runway turn 90 degrees to the next taxiway and proceed. I proceeded to apologize, and the controller stated, 'no problem, we know those taxiways are poorly marked.' supplemental information from acn 204808. Apparently an aircraft was instructed to go around because of our position near the aircraft runway. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. They left the ramp on lima and turned left on xray. They missed the turn on november and stopped just past the hold short lines on xray at runway 26. He said they did not actually enter the runway. He said the signage at intxns of taxiways xray, november and whiskey are poor, especially at night. He also found fault with the signs and hold short lines on xray at runway 26.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT OVERSHOT RWY HOLD LINES CAUSING TWR TO ISSUE GAR TO AN ACFT ON APCH.
Narrative: WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TAXI FROM THE GATE TO THE ACTIVE RWY, VIA SEVERAL TAXIWAYS TO AVOID A WDB PUSHING BACK FROM THE INNER CONCOURSE. AS WE PROCEEDED AROUND THE S END OF THE TERMINAL WE REMAINED ON THE TAXIWAY THAT WE BELIEVED WAS THE TAXIWAY LEADING TO THE ACTIVE RWY. ONCE WE REALIZED THIS, WE STOPPED SHORT OF THE RWY. GND CTL THEN CALLED US AND INSTRUCTED US TO PROCEED ONTO THE RWY TURN 90 DEGS TO THE NEXT TAXIWAY AND PROCEED. I PROCEEDED TO APOLOGIZE, AND THE CTLR STATED, 'NO PROBLEM, WE KNOW THOSE TAXIWAYS ARE POORLY MARKED.' SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 204808. APPARENTLY AN ACFT WAS INSTRUCTED TO GAR BECAUSE OF OUR POS NEAR THE ACFT RWY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. THEY LEFT THE RAMP ON LIMA AND TURNED L ON XRAY. THEY MISSED THE TURN ON NOVEMBER AND STOPPED JUST PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINES ON XRAY AT RWY 26. HE SAID THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY ENTER THE RWY. HE SAID THE SIGNAGE AT INTXNS OF TAXIWAYS XRAY, NOVEMBER AND WHISKEY ARE POOR, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. HE ALSO FOUND FAULT WITH THE SIGNS AND HOLD SHORT LINES ON XRAY AT RWY 26.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.