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Attributes | |
ACN | 206508 |
Time | |
Date | 199204 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : obk airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Flight Phase | other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 4800 |
ASRS Report | 206508 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had just switched to departure control and leveled at 5000 ft, 250 KTS (autoplt on). I noticed another aircraft on TCASII at 12 O'clock, about 5 mi, same altitude, constant bearing, decreasing range. Spc had just declared an emergency for shutdown of #4 engine (loss of oil pressure). The controller was busy with fob, souls, etc, and we were unable to tell him of the traffic conflict. TCASII announced 'traffic, traffic.' the first officer and I both acquired the other aircraft visually but visibility was restr to less than 5 mi in haze. (All of this happened in a matter of seconds.) the TCASII commanded 'descend, descend.' in my opinion we were going to be very close (or worse) if we continued on present altitude and heading. I disconnected the autoplt, pulled the power to idle and began an immediate 1500 FPM descent. At 4700 ft the TCASII said 'clear of conflict.' we started a slow climb back toward 5000 ft. At this time the controller turned the spc and commanded us to climb to 6000 ft. The TCASII then commanded 'climb, climb.' we began a 2000 FPM climb. Upon passing 5000 ft, TCASII reversed and said 'descend, descend.' as we were already passing through the spc's altitude, had him visually, had been issued a climb clearance, and were not going to collide, I ignored the 'descend' command (which quickly changed to 'clear of conflict') and continued to climb. I am concerned about the 1) 'descend', 2) 'all clear', 3) 'climb' and then, 4) 'descend' commands. TCASII averted a possible near miss (or worse).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR AND SPC ACFT WERE HEAD ON AT THE SAME ALT. THE SPC DECLARED AN EMER CAUSING THE CTLR TO AVERT HIS ATTN FROM THE IMPENDING CONFLICT. TCASII IN THE ACR ACFT MADE CONFUSING AND CONFLICTING COMMANDS THAT FURTHER COMPLICATED THE SITUATION. ATC GAVE THE SPC A TURN THAT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ALT DEVS OF THE ACR, RESOLVED THE CONFLICT.
Narrative: WE HAD JUST SWITCHED TO DEP CTL AND LEVELED AT 5000 FT, 250 KTS (AUTOPLT ON). I NOTICED ANOTHER ACFT ON TCASII AT 12 O'CLOCK, ABOUT 5 MI, SAME ALT, CONSTANT BEARING, DECREASING RANGE. SPC HAD JUST DECLARED AN EMER FOR SHUTDOWN OF #4 ENG (LOSS OF OIL PRESSURE). THE CTLR WAS BUSY WITH FOB, SOULS, ETC, AND WE WERE UNABLE TO TELL HIM OF THE TFC CONFLICT. TCASII ANNOUNCED 'TFC, TFC.' THE FO AND I BOTH ACQUIRED THE OTHER ACFT VISUALLY BUT VISIBILITY WAS RESTR TO LESS THAN 5 MI IN HAZE. (ALL OF THIS HAPPENED IN A MATTER OF SECONDS.) THE TCASII COMMANDED 'DSND, DSND.' IN MY OPINION WE WERE GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE (OR WORSE) IF WE CONTINUED ON PRESENT ALT AND HDG. I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, PULLED THE PWR TO IDLE AND BEGAN AN IMMEDIATE 1500 FPM DSCNT. AT 4700 FT THE TCASII SAID 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' WE STARTED A SLOW CLB BACK TOWARD 5000 FT. AT THIS TIME THE CTLR TURNED THE SPC AND COMMANDED US TO CLB TO 6000 FT. THE TCASII THEN COMMANDED 'CLB, CLB.' WE BEGAN A 2000 FPM CLB. UPON PASSING 5000 FT, TCASII REVERSED AND SAID 'DSND, DSND.' AS WE WERE ALREADY PASSING THROUGH THE SPC'S ALT, HAD HIM VISUALLY, HAD BEEN ISSUED A CLB CLRNC, AND WERE NOT GOING TO COLLIDE, I IGNORED THE 'DSND' COMMAND (WHICH QUICKLY CHANGED TO 'CLR OF CONFLICT') AND CONTINUED TO CLB. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 1) 'DSND', 2) 'ALL CLR', 3) 'CLB' AND THEN, 4) 'DSND' COMMANDS. TCASII AVERTED A POSSIBLE NEAR MISS (OR WORSE).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.