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Attributes | |
ACN | 207856 |
Time | |
Date | 199204 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : inw |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14800 msl bound upper : 15500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 207856 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Scheduled flight from phx, az, to gjt, co, decision made to stay low to avoid excessive head winds. Cruising level 13.5, after moderate chop and upsloping cloud bases (scattered) decision made to climb to 15.5. During climb, ATC TA states 'traffic 11 O'clock and 8 mi climbing out of 1500 ft.' decision was made to slow climb at 14.5 (approximately 200 FPM). Traffic also issued to other pilot (no response). About 50 seconds later other aircraft suddenly appeared crossing left to right (at about a 90 degree angle) no further than 35 ft from the front of the aircraft. This incident was the result of 3 different parties not having a clear idea of what was about to happen. Pilot of other aircraft (small aircraft Y) did not acknowledge ATC when given TA. Under the premise that all aircraft must be vigilant under VFR flight rules, this was a timely and important message which should have been acknowledged. ATC gave traffic information, but when the time came for critical evasive action, no 'traffic alert' information was given. Flight crew of our aircraft simply did not pick out the traffic in time and seemed to be relying too much on ATC and the other pilot for their parts in remaining separated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: SCHEDULED FLT FROM PHX, AZ, TO GJT, CO, DECISION MADE TO STAY LOW TO AVOID EXCESSIVE HEAD WINDS. CRUISING LEVEL 13.5, AFTER MODERATE CHOP AND UPSLOPING CLOUD BASES (SCATTERED) DECISION MADE TO CLB TO 15.5. DURING CLB, ATC TA STATES 'TFC 11 O'CLOCK AND 8 MI CLBING OUT OF 1500 FT.' DECISION WAS MADE TO SLOW CLB AT 14.5 (APPROX 200 FPM). TFC ALSO ISSUED TO OTHER PLT (NO RESPONSE). ABOUT 50 SECONDS LATER OTHER ACFT SUDDENLY APPEARED XING L TO R (AT ABOUT A 90 DEG ANGLE) NO FURTHER THAN 35 FT FROM THE FRONT OF THE ACFT. THIS INCIDENT WAS THE RESULT OF 3 DIFFERENT PARTIES NOT HAVING A CLR IDEA OF WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. PLT OF OTHER ACFT (SMA Y) DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE ATC WHEN GIVEN TA. UNDER THE PREMISE THAT ALL ACFT MUST BE VIGILANT UNDER VFR FLT RULES, THIS WAS A TIMELY AND IMPORTANT MESSAGE WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED. ATC GAVE TFC INFO, BUT WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR CRITICAL EVASIVE ACTION, NO 'TFC ALERT' INFO WAS GIVEN. FLC OF OUR ACFT SIMPLY DID NOT PICK OUT THE TFC IN TIME AND SEEMED TO BE RELYING TOO MUCH ON ATC AND THE OTHER PLT FOR THEIR PARTS IN REMAINING SEPARATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.