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Attributes | |
ACN | 208043 |
Time | |
Date | 199204 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : abq |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cdg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11200 flight time type : 820 |
ASRS Report | 208043 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 25 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 26 at abq, captain assumed aircraft control per procedure for taxi. Ground control instructed 'air carrier X hold short 35 on alpha.' now, being the PNF, I had assumed radio communications duty per procedure. I responded 'air carrier X, roger, short of 35 at alpha.' I then repeated aloud to PIC 'short of 35.' he responded with a nod. I was distraction from the 'outside' for several seconds or up to a min as post landing cockpit duties were performed and the required 'on ground' call was made to abq operations. The cabin attendant cockpit call chimed twice. A signal for me to pick-up the intercom. PIC was distraction by the chime. As I was about to answer the call, he looked down at the radio communication panel as I was switching to intercom and said 'don't respond, it can wait 'till we get parked.' this being an attempt to maintain sterile cockpit per far and company policy. At this point, I looked up to find our aircraft rapidly approaching the intersection of runway 35 with an air carrier Y on landing rollout at about 80 KTS on runway 35. I said 'hold short' and applied heavy braking. Our medium large transport stopped about 20-30 ft beyond the hold short line. The other medium large transport Y passed well clear of our position without apparent notice of our position on the part of the other crew. Cause?!: captain's distraction from hold short task was not so much caused by the fl T attendant chime as it was by his insistence that I not respond to the chime, as he looked down at my communication panel to see if I was switching. His intent to maintain sterile cockpit actually created his own distraction. Additionally, taxi speed was excessive to a small degree but not significantly. As an aside, there was a passenger that passed out in the aisle of the aft galley right after landing, thus prompting the call by flight attendant to cockpit. Cockpit should be called only for 'potential evacuate/evacuation emergency,' or 'fire' in cabin while taxiing. Incidentally, PIC admonished me that I should say 'stop' and see if he responds before 'jumping on brakes.' if I had not responded without delay, this report would be on an NTSB form.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NEAR RWY INCURSION AS ACR MLG PASSES OVER HOLD LINE WHEN TOLD TO HOLD SHORT.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 26 AT ABQ, CAPT ASSUMED ACFT CTL PER PROC FOR TAXI. GND CTL INSTRUCTED 'ACR X HOLD SHORT 35 ON ALPHA.' NOW, BEING THE PNF, I HAD ASSUMED RADIO COMS DUTY PER PROC. I RESPONDED 'ACR X, ROGER, SHORT OF 35 AT ALPHA.' I THEN REPEATED ALOUD TO PIC 'SHORT OF 35.' HE RESPONDED WITH A NOD. I WAS DISTR FROM THE 'OUTSIDE' FOR SEVERAL SECONDS OR UP TO A MIN AS POST LNDG COCKPIT DUTIES WERE PERFORMED AND THE REQUIRED 'ON GND' CALL WAS MADE TO ABQ OPS. THE CABIN ATTENDANT COCKPIT CALL CHIMED TWICE. A SIGNAL FOR ME TO PICK-UP THE INTERCOM. PIC WAS DISTR BY THE CHIME. AS I WAS ABOUT TO ANSWER THE CALL, HE LOOKED DOWN AT THE RADIO COM PANEL AS I WAS SWITCHING TO INTERCOM AND SAID 'DON'T RESPOND, IT CAN WAIT 'TILL WE GET PARKED.' THIS BEING AN ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN STERILE COCKPIT PER FAR AND COMPANY POLICY. AT THIS POINT, I LOOKED UP TO FIND OUR ACFT RAPIDLY APCHING THE INTXN OF RWY 35 WITH AN ACR Y ON LNDG ROLLOUT AT ABOUT 80 KTS ON RWY 35. I SAID 'HOLD SHORT' AND APPLIED HVY BRAKING. OUR MLG STOPPED ABOUT 20-30 FT BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THE OTHER MLG Y PASSED WELL CLR OF OUR POS WITHOUT APPARENT NOTICE OF OUR POS ON THE PART OF THE OTHER CREW. CAUSE?!: CAPT'S DISTR FROM HOLD SHORT TASK WAS NOT SO MUCH CAUSED BY THE FL T ATTENDANT CHIME AS IT WAS BY HIS INSISTENCE THAT I NOT RESPOND TO THE CHIME, AS HE LOOKED DOWN AT MY COM PANEL TO SEE IF I WAS SWITCHING. HIS INTENT TO MAINTAIN STERILE COCKPIT ACTUALLY CREATED HIS OWN DISTR. ADDITIONALLY, TAXI SPD WAS EXCESSIVE TO A SMALL DEG BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY. AS AN ASIDE, THERE WAS A PAX THAT PASSED OUT IN THE AISLE OF THE AFT GALLEY R AFTER LNDG, THUS PROMPTING THE CALL BY FLT ATTENDANT TO COCKPIT. COCKPIT SHOULD BE CALLED ONLY FOR 'POTENTIAL EVAC EMER,' OR 'FIRE' IN CABIN WHILE TAXIING. INCIDENTALLY, PIC ADMONISHED ME THAT I SHOULD SAY 'STOP' AND SEE IF HE RESPONDS BEFORE 'JUMPING ON BRAKES.' IF I HAD NOT RESPONDED WITHOUT DELAY, THIS RPT WOULD BE ON AN NTSB FORM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.