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Attributes | |
ACN | 209400 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : buj |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time total : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 209400 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1600 vertical : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On 'blue ridge 3 arrival' into dfw we had a TCASII RA to climb 1000-1500 FPM. We were level at 11000 ft and slowing from 250-210 KTS as we approached the hamak intersection. We had not been given a TA by ATC, however, I had visual with an medium large transport aircraft, climbing out from dfw above an undercast. It was at 2 O'clock and as we approached the traffic it began to move aft on the wind screen. From my perspective, the traffic was not a threat. As the traffic passed 3 O'clock, TCASII gave us a climb command. It showed traffic at approximately 1 mi, 3 O'clock, 900 ft below and climbing. I visually confirmed the traffic's position as we initiated the climb. The captain felt we should follow the commands to be on the safe side. We followed the TCASII instructions until we were given the 'clear of traffic' call then we descended and followed ATC's new instructions. During the TCASII alert we had to ignore altitude, heading, and airspeed restrictions given almost simultaneously with the TCASII commands. Although the traffic had been a factor, neither the captain nor I thought it was a threat. After landing a TRACON supervisor assured us that the traffic was level 1000 ft below us and that it passed behind us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG HAS TCASII RA. HAD TFC IN SIGHT BUT CLBED.
Narrative: ON 'BLUE RIDGE 3 ARR' INTO DFW WE HAD A TCASII RA TO CLB 1000-1500 FPM. WE WERE LEVEL AT 11000 FT AND SLOWING FROM 250-210 KTS AS WE APCHED THE HAMAK INTXN. WE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN A TA BY ATC, HOWEVER, I HAD VISUAL WITH AN MLG ACFT, CLBING OUT FROM DFW ABOVE AN UNDERCAST. IT WAS AT 2 O'CLOCK AND AS WE APCHED THE TFC IT BEGAN TO MOVE AFT ON THE WIND SCREEN. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE TFC WAS NOT A THREAT. AS THE TFC PASSED 3 O'CLOCK, TCASII GAVE US A CLB COMMAND. IT SHOWED TFC AT APPROX 1 MI, 3 O'CLOCK, 900 FT BELOW AND CLBING. I VISUALLY CONFIRMED THE TFC'S POS AS WE INITIATED THE CLB. THE CAPT FELT WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE COMMANDS TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII INSTRUCTIONS UNTIL WE WERE GIVEN THE 'CLR OF TFC' CALL THEN WE DSNDED AND FOLLOWED ATC'S NEW INSTRUCTIONS. DURING THE TCASII ALERT WE HAD TO IGNORE ALT, HDG, AND AIRSPD RESTRICTIONS GIVEN ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE TCASII COMMANDS. ALTHOUGH THE TFC HAD BEEN A FACTOR, NEITHER THE CAPT NOR I THOUGHT IT WAS A THREAT. AFTER LNDG A TRACON SUPVR ASSURED US THAT THE TFC WAS LEVEL 1000 FT BELOW US AND THAT IT PASSED BEHIND US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.