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Attributes | |
ACN | 210512 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 210512 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 210326 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was issued a takeoff clearance on runway 31. Other aircraft were landing on runway 22. As air carrier X approached V1 we observed air carrier Y on short final runway 22. He questioned his landing clearance and the tower immediately issued a go around clearance. Air carrier Y executed a pull up with the lowest point approximately 50 ft AGL. I delayed rotation until we were through the runway 31/22 intersection. Air carrier Y passed directly overhead at what I estimate to have been 50 ft clearance with our tail. We lifted off at the end of runway 31 at a speed well above V2. Intersecting runway operations are normal so even though our takeoff clearance was not issued until an medium large transport was well through the runway 31/22 intersection, I assumed there must still be spacing in the gap between arrs. Our takeoff roll was executed in a timely manner, but it looked as if the controller just lost track of air carrier Y. When I saw air carrier Y, he appeared to be high enough so that if he came no lower, we would be able to pass beneath him. Our speed was such that had I attempted a rejected takeoff, we may not have been able to stop without going off the end of the runway. Had we not stayed on the runway as we passed below the them I am sure we would have had our tail clipped. The day was a hazy bright overcast day and the other large transport was painted plain white and that may have made it harder to see him earlier. Supplemental information from acn 210516: air carrier Y (dca-lga) was cleared to land on runway 22 at lga. Between 200 ft and 400 ft, the tower instructed us to go around because the aircraft ahead of us had not cleared the runway. The go around was executed promptly without a problem. We were completely unaware of the air carrier X in question until the news media reported the incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MULTIPLE RWY OP INTERSECTING RWYS ACR X HAD NMAC WITH ACR Y.
Narrative: ACR X WAS ISSUED A TKOF CLRNC ON RWY 31. OTHER ACFT WERE LNDG ON RWY 22. AS ACR X APCHED V1 WE OBSERVED ACR Y ON SHORT FINAL RWY 22. HE QUESTIONED HIS LNDG CLRNC AND THE TWR IMMEDIATELY ISSUED A GAR CLRNC. ACR Y EXECUTED A PULL UP WITH THE LOWEST POINT APPROX 50 FT AGL. I DELAYED ROTATION UNTIL WE WERE THROUGH THE RWY 31/22 INTXN. ACR Y PASSED DIRECTLY OVERHEAD AT WHAT I ESTIMATE TO HAVE BEEN 50 FT CLRNC WITH OUR TAIL. WE LIFTED OFF AT THE END OF RWY 31 AT A SPD WELL ABOVE V2. INTERSECTING RWY OPS ARE NORMAL SO EVEN THOUGH OUR TKOF CLRNC WAS NOT ISSUED UNTIL AN MLG WAS WELL THROUGH THE RWY 31/22 INTXN, I ASSUMED THERE MUST STILL BE SPACING IN THE GAP BTWN ARRS. OUR TKOF ROLL WAS EXECUTED IN A TIMELY MANNER, BUT IT LOOKED AS IF THE CTLR JUST LOST TRACK OF ACR Y. WHEN I SAW ACR Y, HE APPEARED TO BE HIGH ENOUGH SO THAT IF HE CAME NO LOWER, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PASS BENEATH HIM. OUR SPD WAS SUCH THAT HAD I ATTEMPTED A REJECTED TKOF, WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP WITHOUT GOING OFF THE END OF THE RWY. HAD WE NOT STAYED ON THE RWY AS WE PASSED BELOW THE THEM I AM SURE WE WOULD HAVE HAD OUR TAIL CLIPPED. THE DAY WAS A HAZY BRIGHT OVCST DAY AND THE OTHER LGT WAS PAINTED PLAIN WHITE AND THAT MAY HAVE MADE IT HARDER TO SEE HIM EARLIER. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 210516: ACR Y (DCA-LGA) WAS CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 22 AT LGA. BTWN 200 FT AND 400 FT, THE TWR INSTRUCTED US TO GAR BECAUSE THE ACFT AHEAD OF US HAD NOT CLRED THE RWY. THE GAR WAS EXECUTED PROMPTLY WITHOUT A PROBLEM. WE WERE COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF THE ACR X IN QUESTION UNTIL THE NEWS MEDIA RPTED THE INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.